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Old 06-29-2009, 04:05 PM
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You really need the Pope to tell you that?
Yes. Then we know it's true as opposed to protestants thinking or hoping something is true but never really knowing for sure.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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And lest he forget that those in the Catholic Churches and the Vatican who turned their heads and transferred child molestors....will have a special place in Hell more then likely. No this is not to blast the Catholic faith, but it sure is true.
When the Pope issues a warning as that, what makes you think it exempts the clergy?

Hell's for all and sundry. Like Heaven.

All this catholic hate is just appalling <thumbs down>
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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And lest he forget that those in the Catholic Churches and the Vatican who turned their heads and transferred child molestors....will have a special place in Hell more then likely. No this is not to blast the Catholic faith, but it sure is true.
Anyone who would do that to a child sure deserves a special place in my opinion too. Popes and priests sure arent excluded. (though i bet thier percentage rate is pretty darn low)
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:17 PM
 
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This is about the most idiotic post I have ever read! The Catholic Church never changes its position on Faith and Morals. It has been that way since Christ commissioned His Church. Why don't you do some serious research before you open your mouth and insert your foot in it any farther. You know nothing of which you speak. You can learn all kinds of things on the internet and it is so much faster than going to school.
It has never changed its position on faith and morals? Apparently I am the uneducated one. Under what pretense of morality was the Spanish Inquisition done under? Did corrupt Popes such as Saint Leo X, Saint Gregory VII, Victor III, Urban II, Eugenius III, Gregory X, Innocent V, Saint Celestine V, Benedict XI, Urban V, Saint Pius V, Pius IX, and Saint Pius X - all of whom were responsible for some of the most egregious mass murdering, calculated corruption, extortion of human beings, and self-appointed nobility hold the morals of the Catholic Church in place? It would seem so to me. And most of those are canonized Popes. Lest I not forget about the truly awful ones such as Pope Boniface VIII, Sixtus IV, Stephen VI, John XII, Alexander VI, Leo X, Clement VII. These guys would give Osama Bin Laden a run for his money.

Never changed its stance on faith? It took them three hundred years to finally admit the Earth wasn't flat! The Catholic Church is, to this day, a genocidal, barbaric institution that will stop at nothing to protect its image from the face of the world it sought to conquer for so many hundreds of years. The current Pope, as recently as several months ago, unleashed a tirade of lies on his trip to Africa about how condoms do not prevent AIDS.

He is as egregiously and horrendously horrible and scrofulous as the whole of the organization has been throughout history. I'm sorry if you don't like history or fail to actually understand the parts that might hurt your feelings. But the fact remains that the Catholic Church is an organization lambasted in history and present day as a refuge for murderers, pedophiles and disinformation tactics that could only best be described as intellectual subterfuge in order to best try and sway people's money and dreams into their ever-enlargening real estate business.

I'd rather spit on the Pope than shake his hand.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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When the Pope issues a warning as that, what makes you think it exempts the clergy?

Hell's for all and sundry. Like Heaven.

All this catholic hate is just appalling <thumbs down>
First of all I don't hate Catholics. I find it appalling when ANY religion turns their heads and lets horrible things keep occuring.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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It has never changed its position on faith and morals? Apparently I am the uneducated one. Under what pretense of morality was the Spanish Inquisition done under? Did corrupt Popes such as Saint Leo X, Saint Gregory VII, Victor III, Urban II, Eugenius III, Gregory X, Innocent V, Saint Celestine V, Benedict XI, Urban V, Saint Pius V, Pius IX, and Saint Pius X - all of whom were responsible for some of the most egregious mass murdering, calculated corruption, extortion of human beings, and self-appointed nobility hold the morals of the Catholic Church in place? It would seem so to me.

Never changed its stance on faith? It took them three hundred years to finally admit the Earth wasn't flat! The Catholic Church is, to this day, a genocidal, barbaric institution that will stop at nothing to protect its image from the face of the world it sought to conquer for so many hundreds of years. The current Pope, as recently as several months ago, unleashed a tirade of lies on his trip to Africa about how condoms do not prevent AIDS.

He is as egregiously and horrendously horrible and scrofulous as the whole of the organization has been throughout history. I'm sorry if you don't like history or fail to actually understand the parts that might hurt your feelings. But the fact remains that the Catholic Church is an organization lambasted in history and present day as a refuge for murderers, pedophiles and disinformation tactics that could only best be described as intellectual subterfuge in order to best try and sway people's money and dreams into their ever-enlargening real estate business.

I'd rather spit on the Pope than shake his hand.
Big deal, we already know our history

Take a chill pill and some for your friends.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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It has never changed its position on faith and morals? Apparently I am the uneducated one. Under what pretense of morality was the Spanish Inquisition done under? Did corrupt Popes such as Saint Leo X, Saint Gregory VII, Victor III, Urban II, Eugenius III, Gregory X, Innocent V, Saint Celestine V, Benedict XI, Urban V, Saint Pius V, Pius IX, and Saint Pius X - all of whom were responsible for some of the most egregious mass murdering, calculated corruption, extortion of human beings, and self-appointed nobility hold the morals of the Catholic Church in place? It would seem so to me.

Never changed its stance on faith? It took them three hundred years to finally admit the Earth wasn't flat! The Catholic Church is, to this day, a genocidal, barbaric institution that will stop at nothing to protect its image from the face of the world it sought to conquer for so many hundreds of years. The current Pope, as recently as several months ago, unleashed a tirade of lies on his trip to Africa about how condoms do not prevent AIDS.

He is as egregiously and horrendously horrible and scrofulous as the whole of the organization has been throughout history. I'm sorry if you don't like history or fail to actually understand the parts that might hurt your feelings. But the fact remains that the Catholic Church is an organization lambasted in history and present day as a refuge for murderers, pedophiles and disinformation tactics that could only best be described as intellectual subterfuge in order to best try and sway people's money and dreams into their ever-enlargening real estate business.

I'd rather spit on the Pope than shake his hand.
What does that have to what the church teaches, I'm not saying previous popes haven't done horrible things, they have. They're human. It happens. But that does not reflect what the church teaching on morals.

And what the heck does the Earth being flat have to do with faith, NOTHING. And it never was doctrine. Doctrine is NEVER changed.


I don't know whats wrong with you, but you need to take a deep breath, and relax.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:26 PM
 
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Big deal, we already know our history
Apparently, some of you don't...
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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Hell is eternal. Jesus laid down a righteous, holy and narrow road for us to walk after receiving His blessed free gift of salvation. He told the woman taken in adultery, "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8:11) This has always been God's message: no sin. God cannot look upon sin.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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First of all I don't hate Catholics. I find it appalling when ANY religion turns their heads and lets horrible things keep occuring.
The world's infested with good people and bad people. Catholicism has nothing to do with it.
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