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this group singing is also ones calling for vets to go to standing rock right now to try and bring peace .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2yFg5ejE4&t=172s
So God came down & warned a bunch of Pagans that the white man is coming & they should be afraid?
first of all only some were pagans most had one god or one mystery they now call The Great spirit or the greatest mystery of all things. and were always looking for him trying to hear him in his creation.
but yes some worshipped the beasts and some worshiped the spirit in the beast who was the greater of all things. and no one can tell one worshipper from another even today . there was always wheat a tares in the same fields and will be until the harvest of all souls. and that is and always has been about personal choices and hearts that either do or don't long for his presence.
Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?
Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?
Let's see the scripture then.
Acts 2:5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Also...
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
Does it really mean what it says? Or is it just addressing the known world as of that time period?
Is there evidence of sea routes to the western hemisphere before Columbus?
Is there evidence that the Lord can transport any of His disciples to share the Good News in America?
Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
Is there evidence that God knows who is seeking Him that would receive Him from those that are not seeking Him at all so that He sends His disciples where they are needed?
Acts 16: 6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, 7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not. 8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas. 9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. 0 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
Are there evidence of muslims seeing a vision of Jesus and believing in Him to leave Islam? Check the internet and youtubes for such testimonies.
So God's promise that all those that seek, shall find; He will bring the Good News to man. I can believe that if any American Indian would have believed the gospel, God would reveal His Son to them to enable them to believe. ( Matthew 11:25-27 ) So I can believe that the American Indians have heard & seen of Him, but some may have gone astray since then which would be why necessity to preach the gospel again at later times was and still is necessary thru out human history since the church began at Pentecost.
believe he always had brought his word here. From Prince Maddox ( a preacher by the way ) to the Bat creek stone written in temple era hebrew . He has been here all along and he kept what he wanted to keep like only he can .
of course some believed in his prophesy and some didn't . that always has been .
but most of the tribes here have the same promises and the roots as Israel does .
I think it is in the end times thread about trump that I posted today where twice 'Face like the sun' brings up the " I think his name is Gonzo , but ' how the antichrist will not honor " the God women prefer " or "the god of his fathers" . Gonzo tries to explain it but knows nothing about that subject and or how it is , was and has been abused by ignorant men greedy for power and seeking opportunity to control and usurp. as they all have impose their concepts into and through God's promises but what is new really? so Gonzo at least he tried.
at least he was not talking about 'goddesses' and 'queens of heaven ' which is wrong . they were just keepers of God's promises to these people.
first of all only some were pagans most had one god or one mystery they now call The Great spirit or the greatest mystery of all things. and were always looking for him trying to hear him in his creation.
but yes some worshipped the beasts and some worshiped the spirit in the beast who was the greater of all things. and no one can tell one worshipper from another even today . there was always wheat a tares in the same fields and will be until the harvest of all souls. and that is and always has been about personal choices and hearts that either do or don't long for his presence.
ALL Indians were Pagan. Christianity hadn't reached their land. Don't mistake a Godhead for the Christian God.
ALL Indians were Pagan. Christianity hadn't reached their land. Don't mistake a Godhead for the Christian God.
that is a bald faced lie ! The Lord of creation sent out his gospel and promises to Adam and one then to Eve. just as Daniel is say there is two ways to find him and the antiChrist found neither of them , through adam and one way through EVE and the promises to them . faith in those promises and the promised one they both proclaim will save. you don't know what you are talking about as far as the root of native truths .
when the book as his witness/ Quipu says at best one man to 7 woman will be saved why?
maybe because the one He sent through Eve and to the world was just so simple and pure and thus was a good or better a witness than the one he sent with Adam to Abraham , because either way both will confirm the other to be true because they started from the same place .
the one he sent through Adam that witness and record is ended up here
now both were corrupted by crooked minds all wanting to be God or his son to be Messiah and save the world .. all along the way and over and over and over , but the heart of his truth was always the truth and alway his truth and it was always there for any who wish to know Him and to hope in him only for their ressurection !
what cooked minds of fallen men ( Menes ) have done to His truths ( the promises ) the Lord has given to Adam and to given EVE .. is the problem and was always the problem. but He maintained that truth to Adam and did maintain the truth given to Eve and witnessed and confirmed it to them over and over.
Eve was deceived and Adam chose rebellion. but at least 7 females will be saved to every one male. because men still chose to rebel because they want to be their own god.
now the " gods" men created and then exploit for their own purposes , always based part in truth are still balled faced lies.. to puff their self up and pretend they are gods but they are all death like that bottomless black hole between their ears.
the truth God gave Adam will be redeemed and proved true and the truth/ oaths / promises The Lord of creation gave Eve will be proved true because He is the Oath keeper . what will not be proved true is all the stuff crooked minds added to His truth and that is from day one men have ignored and added whatever they wished .
now some day soon the oath to Eve will meet the oaths to Adam(which is second Adam ) and we will have a new world like only he( second Adam ) can do it !
and I doubt Eve can be deceived ever again!
that is a bald faced lie ! The Lord of creation sent out his gospel and promises to Adam and one then to Eve. just as Daniel is say there is two ways to find him and the antiChrist found neither of them , through adam and one way through EVE and the promises to them . faith in those promises and the promised one they both proclaim will save. you don't know what you are talking about as far as the root of native truths .
when the book as his witness/ Quipu says at best one man to 7 woman will be saved why?
maybe because the one He sent through Eve and to the world was just so simple and pure and thus was a good or better a witness than the one he sent with Adam to Abraham , because either way both will confirm the other to be true because they started from the same place .
the one he sent through Adam that witness and record is ended up here
now both were corrupted by crooked minds all wanting to be God or his son to be Messiah and save the world .. all along the way and over and over and over , but the heart of his truth was always the truth and alway his truth and it was always there for any who wish to know Him and to hope in him only for their ressurection !
what cooked minds of fallen men ( Menes ) have done to His truths ( the promises ) the Lord has given to Adam and to given EVE .. is the problem and was always the problem. but He maintained that truth to Adam and did maintain the truth given to Eve and witnessed and confirmed it to them over and over.
Eve was deceived and Adam chose rebellion. but at least 7 females will be saved to every one male. because men still chose to rebel because they want to be their own god.
now the " gods" men created and then exploit for their own purposes , always based part in truth are still balled faced lies.. to puff their self up and pretend they are gods but they are all death like that bottomless black hole between their ears.
the truth God gave Adam will be redeemed and proved true and the truth/ oaths / promises The Lord of creation gave Eve will be proved true because He is the Oath keeper . what will not be proved true is all the stuff crooked minds added to His truth and that is from day one men have ignored and added whatever they wished .
now some day soon the oath to Eve will meet the oaths to Adam(which is second Adam ) and we will have a new world like only he( second Adam ) can do it !
and I doubt Eve can be deceived ever again!
I wil make it easy for you
NO they are not all PAGANS!!!!!
actually most were sun worshipers and ancestor worshippers in varying degrees ... Eve+ menes(egypt) = sun worship + canaanites = animists ... but the root was Eve's promises and why they are almost all matrilineal cultures.
I wil make it easy for you
NO they are not all PAGANS!!!!!
actually most were sun worshipers and ancestor worshippers in varying degrees ... Eve+ menes(egypt) = sun worship + canaanites = animists ... but the root was Eve's promises and why they are almost all matrilineal cultures.
A Pagan is ANYONE who doesn't worship the Judeo-Christian God. But whatever floats your boat.
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