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Yes it's true the fundies do try and sugar coat the message of eternal torment by saying "you send yourself there by not believing", it's the only thing they can come up with to cover up the embarrassment of the mixed contradictive message of "God is love , but He will eternally torture you if you don't believe".
Fundamental and orthodox Christianity is nothing more than spiritual extortion. Organized Christianity is the religious mafia .... Period.
Yes it's true the fundies do try and sugar coat the message of eternal torment by saying "you send yourself there by not believing", it's the only thing they can come up with to cover up the embarrassment of the mixed contradictive message of "God is love , but He will eternally torture you if you don't believe".
But isn't it true that YOU decide whether to accept & serve God or reject Him?
Yes it's true the fundies do try and sugar coat the message of eternal torment by saying "you send yourself there by not believing", it's the only thing they can come up with to cover up the embarrassment of the mixed contradictive message of "God is love , but He will eternally torture you if you don't believe".
In many cases believing is not enough. You must also live a sinless life in complete obedience to scripture if you want a shot at staying out of eternal torture. According to Westboro (and possibly the Old Testament), God gets enjoyment out of sending people to hell and mocks them as he throws them in. Considering the standard of the Bible is virtually impossible to live by, it's clear that God hates us all and we are going to hell.
In many cases believing is not enough. You must also live a sinless life in complete obedience to scripture if you want a shot at staying out of eternal torture. According to Westboro (and possibly the Old Testament), God gets enjoyment out of sending people to hell and mocks them as he throws them in. Considering the standard of the Bible is virtually impossible to live by, it's clear that God hates us all and we are going to hell.
None of what you say is true, except maybe the part about WBC. I don't know much about them.
First of all my acceptance of Him was through His goodness causing me to repent (Romans 2 : 4) and secondly i believe every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Phil 2 : 10,11) and thirdly i also believe the words that Jesus spoke when He said "if i will draw all men to Himself" (John 12 : 32)
First of all my acceptance of Him was through His goodness causing me to repent (Romans 2 : 4) and secondly i believe every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Phil 2 : 10,11) and thirdly i also believe the words that Jesus spoke when He said "if i will draw all men to Himself" (John 12 : 32)
So you're a universalist?
John 3:16
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
None of what you say is true, except maybe the part about WBC. I don't know much about them.
Well the Bible is so contradictory there really is no sure way to know what God really requires of us. Example 1 - look at the difference between the writings of Paul and James. The born-againers like Paul because he puts emphasis on faith and de-emphasizes works. Read James though and you see a very different picture, one of works-based salvation generally preached in old time churches like Westboro. In my opinion the four gospels line up with James moreso than Paul. How do we know what to go by? Also, did the hateful, vengeful, smiteful God of the Old Testament all of a sudden turn into a loving, merciful, forgiving God when Christ was born? The Bible says God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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