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Old 10-12-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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(CONTINUED FROM ANOTHER THREAD) Was that Christian ever saved in the first place?

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No No No!!! You CANNOT make that judgment! God, assuming he is real, is the only one who can decide that! And that is also assuming that the bible is the real book....I'm just saying....
I didn't judge, I said that you cannot be saved and then unsaved. How does the Holy Spirit dwell in you and then leave you? what verse is that?
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:40 PM
 
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It doesn't matter....upon death this GOD will decide if one is saved or not. Wouldn't it be his choice in the matter anyhow? He'll have mercy upon whom he'll have mercy right?! You saying that someone "was never a true Christian" IS passing judgment. Let god decide and don't worry about it. Seems like a silly argument for a "true" Christian to be in.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:07 PM
 
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It doesn't matter....upon death this GOD will decide if one is saved or not. Wouldn't it be his choice in the matter anyhow? He'll have mercy upon whom he'll have mercy right?! You saying that someone "was never a true Christian" IS passing judgment. Let god decide and don't worry about it. Seems like a silly argument for a "true" Christian to be in.
It does matter and I didn't judge, she said by her own omission, "SHE WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN ANYMORE". You see I gave my heart to the Lord in 1995 at a Billy Graham Crusade at the Georgia Dome. I received Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal saviour last year.

I was a false convert for 14 years. I was never a Christian because I was still living a life of sin. Study your bible and find for yourself if the saved can be unsaved?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:16 PM
 
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It does matter and I didn't judge, she said, "SHE WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN ANYMORE". You see I gave my heart to the Lord in 1995 at a Billy Graham Crusade at the Georgia Dome. I received Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal saviour last year.

I was a false convert for 14 years. I was never a Christian because I was still living a life of sin. You lack spiritual maturity, study your bible and find for yourself if the saved can be unsaved?

Cool deal. I gave my life to the Lord watching a Billy Graham Crusade from my prison cell in 1996

Once you have given your life over to the Lord and have repented of your known sins the Holy Spirit dwells within you from that point till death. So the answer is NO you cannot lose your Salvation if in fact you had it in the 1st place
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Cool deal. I gave my life to the Lord watching a Billy Graham Crusade from my prison cell in 1996

Once you have given your life over to the Lord and have repented of your known sins the Holy Spirit dwells within you from that point till death. So the answer is NO you cannot lose your Salvation if in fact you had it in the 1st place
So then would you say, that one can say or not say from looking at scripture, "I AM NOT a Christian anymore"?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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So where does it say in the bible that you have to be a Christian? You are saying that god doesn't have the ability to "Save" a person who doesn't embrace Christianity? Why is being "Saved" and being a "Christian" the same thing?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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So where does it say in the bible that you have to be a Christian? You are saying that god doesn't have the ability to "Save" a person who doesn't embrace Christianity? Why is being "Saved" and being a "Christian" the same thing?
The question isn't who is or isn't a Christian? I would never judge someone's salvation. The question is can a "true Christian" say, that they are no longer a Christian?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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So then would you say, that one can say or not say from looking at scripture, "I AM NOT a Christian anymore"?
No.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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Study your bible and find for yourself if the saved can be unsaved?
Are you not aware, that this is one of the most commonly debated topics among Christians?

Is this something new to you?
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:11 PM
 
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Are you not aware, that this is one of the most commonly debated topics among Christians?

Is this something new to you?

I doubt it is new to him. From what I've read of his posts he always thinks his "Opinion" is the ONLY opinion.
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