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I really don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Lets go back to my original post shall we?
So in reading what I posted it is EASILY discern that I used "Alcohol" and "Divorce" as "Examples". I quite clearly after alcohol stated: "if you believe Alcohol is prohibited per the Bible" meaning I understand not all "Christians" think drinking Alcohol is a sin. Again.. it was an E.X.A.M.P.L.E
Now with the knowledge I've filled in your cup concerning the original post..
would you like to continue in the discussion?
Please don't take this the wrong way..
but lets compare stats. i've never done this before but I feel as though it works for your question:
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I think over the years I've been able to figure out what topics are "thread killers". Inevitably if I included "Gay Marriage" in the discussion the thread would turn into a trollish dead end. As such I specifically requested it NOT be discussed in this thread (a request by the way you fantastically seemed to not be able to listen to).
So ByeBye.. If you want to discuss Gay Marriage... start a thread. But don't do it here..
One of the reasons given against "Gay Marriage" is that some Christians just couldn't bring themselves to condoning sin.
I have no problem with that (other than thinking it is ridiculous).
However, with that back drop I was wondering the following:
Many things that are not according to the will of God we condone in society that we refuse in our personal life, our familial and other associations in order to have some liberty in society at large. Many of these things are of little or no value if legislated rather than voluntary. There are issues of the history of mankind, the biology of humankind, the resulting change in culture, or the purpose of rights granted. Like considerations for those bearing the expense of childbearing.
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Originally Posted by bigthirsty
What other rights of U.S. Citizens would you like to deny per your religious beliefs?
Your example has never until very recent times been a "right" and still isn't in most of the USA. Religious beliefs never need to be raised to demonstrate the disaster of the topic you want others to not mention.
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Originally Posted by bigthirsty
For instance:
Prohibit the sale of Alcohol? (if you believe Alcohol is prohibited per the Bible)
Prohibit divorce?
Others?
So what other sins would you like to.. legislate?
Lets PLEASE KEEP THE ISSUE OF GAY MARRIAGE OUT OF THIS THREAD.
Not quite the same thing; but, perhaps we could say in the spirit of the OP I would like several features of ancient Israel as recorded in the Bible to become true for our culture. So many other things hang on this as something not possible on its own, it is hard for those unaquainted with it to comprehend how it could be done. They had NO JAILS!!!
Sorry but arent they legislating plenty of things as it is? Speed limits, seatbelt laws, gun registration laws, insurance requirement laws(auto and health) and the list goes on and on. Why arent you complaining about these legislations?
Sorry but arent they legislating plenty of things as it is? Speed limits, seatbelt laws, gun registration laws, insurance requirement laws(auto and health) and the list goes on and on. Why arent you complaining about these legislations?
Probably because we are on a Religion board specifically in a Christianity sub forum and thus I formulated the question to.. ya know... have something to do with that context.
I have a feeling you've completely missed the question. My fault for not making it more clear.
Let me try again.
Step 1: Think of what you would call a "sin" Robin (any sin)..
Step 2: Now.. while thinking about that "sin" (pick whatever one you want).. would you want the government to legislate AGAINST that sin (i.e. outlaw it from a legal perspective)?
Let me know if I need to be more clear.
Again my apology for not making it more crystal clear in the beginning..
I don't really know if it would work to have God's law used as the law of the U.S. God's law is governed by God, and the law of the U.S. is governed by many both believers and non-believers.
If we used God's law to Govern the U.S. The government would be in charge of condemning all those to death who do not accept Jesus Christ as thier Savior.
So you agree that siting a religious reason for something to be illegal is not a good idea?
Probably because we are on a Religion board specifically in a Christianity sub forum and thus I formulated the question to.. ya know... have something to do with that context.
I have a feeling you've completely missed the question. My fault for not making it more clear.
Let me try again.
Step 1: Think of what you would call a "sin" Robin (any sin)..
Step 2: Now.. while thinking about that "sin" (pick whatever one you want).. would you want the government to legislate AGAINST that sin (i.e. outlaw it from a legal perspective)?
Let me know if I need to be more clear.
Again my apology for not making it more crystal clear in the beginning..
I understood just fine the list I offered would be sins as well or are sins. If you dont wear your seatbelt you will be find for disobeying the laws of the land.
They legislate how old you have to be to drink alchohol and smoke.
Think about it they are already legislating laws for sin.
The point to being a human, what one fully realized, hence, perfect would look like would include NO SIN. I think big thirsty confuses the meaning of the word sin, which primarily is only to miss the point; like a target, having been shot at, yet the bullseye was missed, that is what "sin" is. All the things which destroy us as humans result from "sin." Whether called "sin" or not, it is still what ruins everything. Without it everything would be perfect. Sorry bigthirsty, I can't help it; but, this is the English language we're dealing with here. Nobody has to follow any book by rote to recognise something wrong and destructive. The increased capacity of this kind of recognition is what makes us human.
Jesus told the people of His day, 'If you, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those that ask?" Even evil people have consciences and can rightly discern good from evil. It also ought to be mentioned that religion is one of the most powerful forces able to sear the conscience, destroying our natural inner perceptions and judgment. The one thing that is worse than bad politics is bad religion. The positions you've expressed, bigthisty, seem to indicate you have been victim of both. You could ask your Father for His gift which is "joy unspeakable and full of glory."
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The one thing that is worse than bad politics is bad religion. The positions you've expressed, bigthisty, seem to indicate you have been victim of both. You could ask your Father for His gift which is "joy unspeakable and full of glory."
Duly noted.
Care to get back to the original topic now?
What religious belief would you like to apply in a legal perspective to other U.S. citizens thus taking away their rights?
Step 1: Think of a sin (any sin).
Step 2: (NEW!): Determine if that sin is ALREADY illegal. If it is go to Step 3. If not go to Step 4.
Step 3: STOP! The sin you thought about is already defined as illegal. Start over at Step 1
Step 4: Do you want the government to make that sin illegal?
Let me know if this helps. Again my apology for not making this any more clear.
So another words the legislations they have already made against sins are just fine with you but new ones would be inappropriate.
Adultry is still a sin yet is not inforced in the legal system like it should be because the government legislates what they like.
You have asked this question pertaining to a topic you have asked us not to bring up and then you attack when someone makes a logical case for other areas of sin.
Marriage is defined by the Constitution as being husband and wife yet you want legislation to change the constitution. They already legislate enough of our live as it is and they have done alot of damage so far. I dont want the governement making any legislations contrary to the Bible all else is of Satan.
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