Opinions from transplants to Cincinnati wanted (Columbus, Cleveland: transfer, moving, trailer)

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Please review City Data City Profiles. Most all of what you have posted is incorrect. It comes from your reliance on Fake News instead of actual information.

LMGTFY

What? What I posted was real data. Please quit trying to twist data to make Cincinnati look diverse. It's one of the least diverse cities in the USA


http://www.migrationpolicy.org/progr...ropolitan-area


STRAIGHT from the Census Data. So, dear sir, please argue with the census bureau? Please find me factual posts that show I am am spreading "fake news." That is so Cincinnati of you to use Trumpisms. Cincinnati/Hamilton County actually voted REPUBLICAN I think in the 2004 elections. Even southern cities never vote Republican!

Cincinnati is conservative, white, religious, and mixed with poor blacks and lots of relocated Appalachians. That's why some call it Cincitucky. Despite what Eddie says, its by far the most provincial city I have ever seen...thus its nearly flat growth.

That said, I really liked a lot when I lived in Cincy, and I lived in downtown before it gentrified. OTR has a chance to be one of the coolest urban hoods in the US outside Brooklyn.

The small urban villages on hills like Mt Adams, Mt Lookout, Hyde Park, and even Covington give the area tons of historic charm. But I honestly just don't like the people and their uppity attitude. Its a mid sized city that thinks it is big.

[Briolat21]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Guys, I personally prefer being asked what church I attend (I don't) or what HS I went to (I am not from Ohio). That is miles ahead of being asked "so what race are you???" with bewilderment. Provincialism > blatant ethnocentrism.

Also, I come from Louisville which seems to own the provincial market. I also am quirky and don't consider myself great at identifying with new people. I still had a pleasant time dealing with provincialism. I think some people just will be miserable everywhere they go. Good and bad people exist everywhere. In a metro of 4 million if you can't find enough people you like it might be time to look within.

Its interesting how some people equate finding a fault to being miserable.

I don't think any of the transplants who responded came across as miserable. You can be happy and acknowledge that an area has what you perceive as flaws. They're not actually mutually exclusive states.

Also - don't know what metro of 4 million you're talking about, because Cinci's is 2. (give or take a few hundred thousand).

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by Briolat21

Its interesting how some people equate finding a fault to being miserable.

I don't think any of the transplants who responded came across as miserable. You can be happy and acknowledge that an area has what you perceive as flaws. They're not actually mutually exclusive states.

Also - don't know what metro of 4 million you're talking about, because Cinci's is 2. (give or take a few hundred thousand).

He's throwing in Dayton which is 56 miles away. Maybe throwing in Lexington and some of Louisville NE suburbs too?

Cincy is 2.1 million. Period. Maybe 3 million if you throw in Dayton, but they are definitely two separate towns.

[cincydave8]

Originally Posted by Peter1948

What? What I posted was real data. Please quit trying to twist data to make Cincinnati look diverse. It's one of the least diverse cities in the USA


U.S. Immigrant Population by Metropolitan Area | migrationpolicy.org


STRAIGHT from the Census Data. So, dear sir, please argue with the census bureau? Please find me factual posts that show I am am spreading "fake news." That is so Cincinnati of you to use Trumpisms. Cincinnati/Hamilton County actually voted REPUBLICAN I think in the 2004 elections. Even southern cities never vote Republican!

Cincinnati is conservative, white, religious, and mixed with poor blacks and lots of relocated Appalachians. That's why some call it Cincitucky. Despite what Eddie says, its by far the most provincial city I have ever seen...thus its nearly flat growth.

That said, I really liked a lot when I lived in Cincy, and I lived in downtown before it gentrified. OTR has a chance to be one of the coolest urban hoods in the US outside Brooklyn.

The small urban villages on hills like Mt Adams, Mt Lookout, Hyde Park, and even Covington give the area tons of historic charm. But I honestly just don't like the people and their uppity attitude. Its a mid sized city that thinks it is big.

So Hamilton County voted Republican over a decade ago so we're still conservative and all that? Democratic votes have increased every presidential election Hamilton County since 1992:

Cincinnati is growing now and it should be pointed out that before Looeyville merged it was also losing population for decades. I don't know if Old Lawvul is currently gaining or not now, but I'm sure you'll tell me it is. That would be interesting fact to see. You should be more concerned with building urban highways destroying mature trees instead of what could have been an incredible riverfront park than spewing your opinions on how much you dislike every city outside of the derby city.

[jmecklenborg]

I biked through Smale last weekend and couldn't help but notice the number of conspicuously foreign people (especially Arabs and Africans) strolling around with their families. I don't know if they were just visitors or if they're recent transplants to Cincinnati but it's great that they aren't hesitating to walk around the park and downtown.

Meanwhile, the natives out in Mason and West Chester remain terrified of the city.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by Briolat21

Its interesting how some people equate finding a fault to being miserable.

I don't think any of the transplants who responded came across as miserable. You can be happy and acknowledge that an area has what you perceive as flaws. They're not actually mutually exclusive states.

Also - don't know what metro of 4 million you're talking about, because Cinci's is 2. (give or take a few hundred thousand).

No I am typing on my phone and my finger slipped.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by cincydave8

So Hamilton County voted Republican over a decade ago so we're still conservative and all that? Democratic votes have increased every presidential election Hamilton County since 1992:

Cincinnati is growing now and it should be pointed out that before Looeyville merged it was also losing population for decades. I don't know if Old Lawvul is currently gaining or not now, but I'm sure you'll tell me it is. That would be interesting fact to see. You should be more concerned with building urban highways destroying mature trees instead of what could have been an incredible riverfront park than spewing your opinions on how much you dislike every city outside of the derby city.

Hamilton voted Republican in several elections from 92 to 2004. The only reason it is more democratic now is many of those super white conservatives have left Hamilton...most have left the metro, the rest to outlying counties.

Louisville has nothing to do with this thread, so quit baiting. Your potshots don't bother me.

Here's the facts.....Cincinnati is pretty stagnant in many measures and VERY provincial. Anyone honest there will admit to it.

It's also well known that Cincinnati is one of the most conservative, non diverse cities in the USA.

The Census and voting facts FACTUALLY prove it. Keep trying to twist facts and put down other places, but no one buys it.

Cincinnati has low in migration, low immigration, etc etc for a reason. It's just not a big transplant area and never will be. I was there for a Reds game recently and I have no idea how that city supports the team. It's always half empty.

Focus on the positives...a gentrifying urban core, streetcars, a good corporate job base, and some pretty architecture and topography. Taking potshots at other places doesn't change the negative facts Cincinnasty faces.

I'm a transplant who has lived in Cincinnati and travels there often for work, and the OP should know some of the truths, not the rosy picture you want to paint.

[Sarah Perry]

What I'm wondering is if the OP is picking up on the fact that the turn the thread ITSELF has taken speaks volumes. That there are plenty of people in the area who just don't take kindly to different opinions, especially ones they interpret as somehow critical, and who won't hesitate to attack someone personally because of it.

That said, the thread has certainly survived with at least somewhat relevant commentary a lot longer than I thought it would.

[Sarah Perry]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Guys, I personally prefer being asked what church I attend (I don't) or what HS I went to (I am not from Ohio). That is miles ahead of being asked "so what race are you???" with bewilderment. Provincialism > blatant ethnocentrism.

Also, I come from Louisville which seems to own the provincial market. I also am quirky and don't consider myself great at identifying with new people. I still had a pleasant time dealing with provincialism. I think some people just will be miserable everywhere they go. Good and bad people exist everywhere. In a metro of 4 million if you can't find enough people you like it might be time to look within.

I'm curious. Probably my own sociological comfort zone is people associated with the universities, even though I have no direct connection with them. Probably because my husband is a retired professor, and university people were our core associates all the time he was working. That said, sometimes I meet people, cannot immediately determine their ethnic origins, and I'm simply curious. I wouldn't phrase the question as "what RACE" are you, but it hasn't occurred to me that someone would be offended by my asking about their place of origin, or where their parents are from. Interestingly, I WOULD consider the question about church affiliation too nosy or pushy to ask someone I just met, unless it was a specific context where that would be relevant.

The last sentence of your posting was, as far as I'm concerned, the definitive statement on the thread, though. Very succinct and very perceptive.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by Sarah Perry

What I'm wondering is if the OP is picking up on the fact that the turn the thread ITSELF has taken speaks volumes. That there are plenty of people in the area who just don't take kindly to different opinions, especially ones they interpret as somehow critical, and who won't hesitate to attack someone personally because of it.

That said, the thread has certainly survived with at least somewhat relevant commentary a lot longer than I thought it would.

Thank you. Using different euphemisms for certain city names speaks of some of the pompous (unfounded) superiority that many Cincinnatians feel about their city, especially in the region.

To me, that speaks volumes about some of the people there.

All in all, its such a good sized metro, if you can't feel comfortable as a transplant, you are not trying. At the same time, it's no Nashville, or even Indianapolis for that matter. Much more provincial and colloquial.