The Most Racially and Ethnically Diverse, Integrated Southern City: Houston, Dallas, Atlanta or Miami? (map, state)

[Golden-mind-State]

Originally Posted by Spade

I don't believe many cities well west (and I say this for a reason) of the Mississippi had large scale housing projects. Even LA or San Francisco. They are nothing more than low rise apartment complexes starting from Texas west to California. The only city that had them was St. Louis and that's why I said well west.

You're right to some extent,they definitely aren't like out east. SF's projects,for example,are low rise but are large scale like Sunnydale..
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/02/03/ba_sunnydale1048la.jpg (broken link)
Geneva towers was one of the few larger projects that of course got demod

[polo89]

Originally Posted by AlGreen

yup. cuney homes. they're actually the oldest projects in houston

Google Maps

now, of course you're not going to find the tall project towers like you have in NY down south

Oh, in the 3rd Ward.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by MikeandIke27

People still have this vision that Atlanta is just black and white. Then when you tell them there are more africans here.. Then they will tell us that there are more nigerians.. Something always has to be thrown out to make one city look better than the other. I have seen this so many times from different cities being compared..

Yep I noticed the same thing,Atlanta has more people from the continent of Africa than any city in the South AND one of the tops in the U.S..I brought that up a long time ago and Houstonians kept talking about Nigerians.Not realizing that the Nigerian population is growing faster in Atlanta than any of those other cities.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by Golden-mind-State

You're right to some extent,they definitely aren't like out east. SF's projects,for example,are low rise but are large scale like Sunnydale..

Geneva towers was one of the few larger projects that of course got demod

Is Sunnydale near Portero Hill? I know those are projects, but I'm sure they have nice views on those nice rolling hills.

[AlGreen]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Yep I noticed the same thing,Atlanta has more people from the continent of Africa than any city in the South AND one of the tops in the U.S..I brought that up a long time ago and Houstonians kept talking about Nigerians.Not realizing that the Nigerian population is growing faster in Atlanta than any of those other cities.

ssshhhh...hush

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by wpmeads

I don't know. Dallas is pretty bland IMO. Anyways, that also would be a result of free zoning is that it makes it rather hard to hide the less than favorable neighborhoods from visitors to the city. Honestly, doubt that the city has more "slums" than the other ones (especially sense Houston by far has the highest GDP of the four). I think it's more that people drive through the our "slums" because there isn't much of a buffer zone between the "slums" and the "nice" neighborhoods. For example, River Oaks is only like a ten minute drive from the 5th Ward. It is what it is.

Yes but Houston hs the lowest per capita incomes than all of the cities and lowest educational attainment.GDP is really not relevant in this matter

[Wonderful Jellal]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Yes but Houston hs the lowest per capita incomes than all of the cities and lowest educational attainment.GDP is really not relevant in this matter

Capita incomes are higher in Houston than in cities like Los Angeles, Detroit and Miami, it's not bad, far of that !

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Yes but Houston hs the lowest per capita incomes than all of the cities and lowest educational attainment.GDP is really not relevant in this matter

It really depends on what line of work you're in.

For example, nurses & doctors make more in Houston than those other cities.

I don't know where you get the low educational attainment from. I think you're just pulling that out of your ass. Rice University is one of the most highly recognized private universities in the nation. Its prestigious to graduate from Rice.

[DANNYY]

You can't really tell which one is the most ethnically diverse between Houston & Miami. In fact you cant tell which one is most ethnically diverse period. I always see on this site that Asians are always lumped together as one group, and same with Oceania and Pacific Islanders. There are a lot of Asian countries from Uzbekistan to Japan. There are a lot of Pacific Island nations, Micronesia, Polynesia, Melanesia, Philippines being among the most direct examples. None of which Miami can say it does well in.

If you're basing it solely off Miami having more Europeans then fine (It may as well be the most diverse if Europeans are all that matter to you, but its ridiculous to ignore what ethnic compositions all four lead in), but they're not really the only ones that matter. For example Atlanta & Houston have more immigrants from Africa, Miami does not.
You cant say which one is the most ethnically diverse between the four, you can only say what ethnicity they are strong in and what they lack in. The only reason people say it for New York City & Bay Area is because they literally have EVERYTHING in such large numbers. There are 214 ethnicity in existence, NONE of these cities can say they dominate the majority over the others. To keep saying "X" city is the most ethnically diverse is retarded. Each and every single one of them lead in different ethnic strengths. Miami & Houston are the most racially diverse, but that can statistically be proven.

And yes it doesn't have the lowest per capita income of the four. It did earlier on in the decade but it overtook that.

1. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA $1.434 Trillion
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT Metro Area $81,389
Kingston, NY Metro Area $4,679
New Haven-Milford, CT Metro Area $37,643
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA Metro Area $1,264,896
Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY Metro Area $21,029
Torrington, CT Micro Area
Trenton-Ewing, NJ Metro Area $24,458

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA $866.095 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA Metro Area $717,884
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA Metro Area $35,080
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area $113,080

3. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA $533.542 Billion
Baltimore-Towson, MD Metro Area $133,012
Lexington Park, MD Micro Area
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metro Area $395,747
Winchester, VA-WV Metro Area $4,783

4. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA $526.895 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI Metro Area $520,672
Kankakee-Bradley, IL Metro Area $3,094
Michigan City-La Porte, IN Metro Area $3,336

5. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $508.418 Billion
Napa, CA Metro Area $7,434
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA Metro Area $310,825
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA Metro Area $146,687
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA Metro Area $9,903
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA Metro Area $20,229
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA Metro Area $13,340

6. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA $413.930 Billion
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH Metro Area $299,590
Concord, NH Micro Area
Manchester-Nashua, NH Metro Area $20,782
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA Metro Area $65,152
Worcester, MA Metro Area $28,406

7. Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA $403.202 Billion
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX Metro Area $403,202

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA $383.082 Billion
Athens, TX Micro Area
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area $379,863
Sherman-Denison, TX Metro Area $3,219

9. Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA $351.680 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD Metro Area $331,897
Reading, PA Metro Area $14,838
Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ Metro Area $4,945

10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL $276.197 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA Metro Area $269,799
Gainesville, GA Metro Area $6,398

11. Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area $261.263 Billion

12. Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA $236.457 Billion
Ann Arbor, MI Metro Area $17,891
Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI Metro Area $200,856
Flint, MI Metro Area $11,406
Monroe, MI Metro Area $6,304

Top 20 CSAs GMP/Per Capita Net 2008 $USD :
01. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA (CSA) $67,111
02. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA (CSA) $64,474
03. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA) $58,883
04. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH (CSA) $54,809
05. Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX (CSA) $54,662
06. Hartford-West Hartford-Willimantic, CT (CSA) $53,204
07. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI (CSA) $52,427
08. Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA (CSA) $52,064
09. Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO (CSA) $51,274
10. Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD (CSA) $50,534
11. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA (CSA) $50,333
12. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX (CSA) $49,707
13. Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI (CSA) $49,304
14. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL (CSA) $48,653
15. Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI (CSA) $48,586
16. Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Yuba City, CA-NV (CSA) $48,364
17. Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC (CSA) $47,235
18. Midland-Odessa, TX (CSA) $47,226
19. Austin-Round Rock-Marble Falls, TX (CSA) $46,998
20. St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL (CSA) $46,042

Population Centers for CSA:

01. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA 22,232,494

02. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA 17,820,893

03. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 9,804,845

04. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA 8,440,617

05. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA 7,609,358

06. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA 7,427,757

07. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA 6,805,275

08. Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA 6,533,122

09. Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA 5,968,586

10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA 5,831,778

11. Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA 5,327,764

Originally Posted by afonega1

and lowest educational attainment.

Haha. They are all pretty close besides Atlanta which does lead the way in this. But yeah you're right, Houston does have the lowest Bachelors degree and higher attainment by 2% less than Dallas-Fort Worth.

But that isn't really necessary though for diversity, they all have higher educational attainment than Los Angeles MSA, but Los Angeles is still by far away the most diverse of them all. So I don't get what Per Capita or this has to do with the diversity topic. But yeah you're right, Atlanta, then Miami, then Dallas, and then Houston on education.

Originally Posted by LAnative10

After looking at this a couple of time, I wonder if total numbers are the best way to figure if one race has an advantage. Would percentages be best for this?

If they were growing at like the level of Boston or Philadelphia then percentages would be more useful. But the rapid rate they are growing the sheer numbers will tell more of a story between one census estimate to another. Percentages would barely have a shift at all. (in my opinion)

Originally Posted by RenaudFR

Capita incomes are higher in Houston than in cities like Los Angeles, Detroit and Miami, it's not bad, far of that !

Yeah lol you're right. The higher GDP then all the rest and they are all really close in terms of population. Miami has the lowest GDP and Per Capita income amongst these four. Houston and Miami probably used to have the lowest around Mid decade, but Houston's GDP grew by 22.6% within just a mere 3 years, and its Per Capita rose to the top of the list at that point. But yeah GDP, Per Capita income, shouldn't be apart of the conversation here since its about diversity racially and ethnically.

[MikeandIke27]

Originally Posted by AlGreen

ssshhhh...hush

Dont wanna wake up the you know who