Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Houston
2,023 posts, read 4,187,884 times
Reputation: 467

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awesome Danny View Post
You have to keep in mind. Use the link for that and look at Los Angeles & New York City also. Los Angeles is by far more integrated this is why:

Remember when a city has ethnic enclaves that leads to a area where people of that background start living more often. Less interactions with others. Atlanta is more integrated by Asians than Houston because much of Houston's Asian population is centered around their enclaves. Atlanta like Waronxmas said seems to be more integrated among that. Houston is more integrated in the other races, for the same reason. Miami has a lot of barrios, where Hispanics of one background only stick to themselves. Vice versa same case for most ethnicity. Like Hillcroft for example, you see all South Asians and rarely anyone else there, the enclaves make it a bit more "segregated" overall. But Houston still has good level of integration. I would say all of these cities have a good level of integration.

Also another thing is, all of these cities are quite spread out, that leads to more day to day interactions amongst racial groups. Especially when its drive, fill in gas, and things like that. It forces people to interact. In a condensed area, people stick to their own villa and their own daily routine.
Very true. In addition, I've noticed that the free zoning, it makes it difficult for ethic groups in Houston to stay separated because it forces the city to be in a constant state of change and evolution, even more than most cities I would presume. The free zoning can make the city feel very chaotic, but I think it really has forced people of different ethic groups move into the same neighborhoods, go to the same restaurants, etc. And as a result, has made the cities different ethnic groups VERY integrated with each other.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
12,498 posts, read 26,991,779 times
Reputation: 4890
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpmeads View Post
Very true. In addition, I've noticed that the free zoning, it makes it difficult for ethic groups in Houston to stay separated because it forces the city to be in a constant state of change and evolution, even more than most cities I would presume. The free zoning can make the city feel very chaotic, but I think it really has forced people of different ethic groups move into the same neighborhoods, go to the same restaurants, etc. And as a result, has made the cities different ethnic groups are VERY integrated with each other.
Yeah...one of the plus sides of not having any zoning laws. There is less room to be segregated. It also integrates commercial with residential much better & makes Houston a quirkier city IMO.

You see some of the strangest **** down in H-town as a result of no zoning.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
13,384 posts, read 25,744,433 times
Reputation: 10592
Quote:
Originally Posted by Awesome Danny View Post
You have to keep in mind. Use the link for that and look at Los Angeles & New York City also. Los Angeles is by far more integrated this is why:

Remember when a city has ethnic enclaves that leads to a area where people of that background start living more often. Less interactions with others. Atlanta is more integrated by Asians than Houston because much of Houston's Asian population is centered around their enclaves. Atlanta like Waronxmas said seems to be more integrated among that. Houston is more integrated in the other races, for the same reason. Miami has a lot of barrios, where Hispanics of one background only stick to themselves. Vice versa same case for most ethnicity. Like Hillcroft for example, you see all South Asians and rarely anyone else there, the enclaves make it a bit more "segregated" overall. But Houston still has good level of integration. I would say all of these cities have a good level of integration.

Also another thing is, all of these cities are quite spread out, that leads to more day to day interactions amongst racial groups. Especially when its drive, fill in gas, and things like that. It forces people to interact. In a condensed area, people stick to their own villa and their own daily routine.

By the way here it is for Los Angeles and New York City:
Los Angeles: CensusScope -- Segregation: Dissimilarity Indices
New York City: CensusScope -- Segregation: Dissimilarity Indices
Funny thing is that Dallas has a similar sized South Asian community (larger Indian and Bangladeshi, but smaller Pakistani). DFW has no Little India. Houston does. I dont know if thats good or bad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
2,023 posts, read 4,187,884 times
Reputation: 467
Quote:
Originally Posted by LAnative10 View Post
Funny thing is that Dallas has a similar sized South Asian community (larger Indian and Bangladeshi, but smaller Pakistani). DFW has no Little India. Houston does. I dont know if thats good or bad.
I don't know about Dallas, but Pakistanis and Indians have been emigrating to Houston for at least two generations. I've met a lot of South Asian college students who where where born (or moved here when they where very young) and raised in the Houston area or somewhere else in the United States. I have a professor who is Indian, and he emigrated to Houston in the 70's.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:19 PM
 
4,775 posts, read 8,840,928 times
Reputation: 3101
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metro Matt View Post
Yeah...one of the plus sides of not having any zoning laws. There is less room to be segregated. It also integrates commercial with residential much better & makes Houston a quirkier city IMO.

You see some of the strangest **** down in H-town as a result of no zoning.
Houston probably takes the cake for having the most slums as well. Houston is the ugliest of the 4 metro areas.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
15,982 posts, read 35,212,805 times
Reputation: 7428
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
Houston probably takes the cake for having the most slums as well. Houston is the ugliest of the 4 metro areas.
Try Miami.

Houston might be the least attractive (I don't really see Dallas as exactly pretty either though), but Miami has many slums.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
12,498 posts, read 26,991,779 times
Reputation: 4890
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
Houston probably takes the cake for having the most slums as well. Houston is the ugliest of the 4 metro areas.
I doubt it. The other cities are just better at hiding their ghettos.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
13,384 posts, read 25,744,433 times
Reputation: 10592
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpmeads View Post
I don't know about Dallas, but Pakistanis and Indians have been emigrating to Houston for at least two generations. I've met a lot of South Asian college students who where where born (or moved here when they where very young) and raised in the Houston area or somewhere else in the United States. I have a professor who is Indian, and he emigrated to Houston in the 70's.
Dallas has been receiving more Indians recently than Houston and Dallas has roughly about 4,000 more Indians. By contrast, Houston has about 10,000 more Pakistanis. When all South Asians are grouped together, Houston has about 1,000 more South Asians than Dallas.

But Dallas has no South Asian ethnic enclaves to speak of.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
20,515 posts, read 33,540,106 times
Reputation: 12152
Yeah Miami is not some pretty paradise that the films make it out to be. Get away from the ocean and you'll quickly see it.

Quote:
When hispanics become the majority in Texas and California that term can no longer be used (minority majority). Hispanics in 20+ years will make up the majority and whites will be a minority in this country. Never would have thought this was a slightly possible 30 years ago.
Doubt that. There are over 200 million non hispanic whites in this country. There are only 50 million hispanics in this country. It will take alot longer than 20 years for Hispanics to be the largest group in the US.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Houston
2,023 posts, read 4,187,884 times
Reputation: 467
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
Houston probably takes the cake for having the most slums as well. Houston is the ugliest of the 4 metro areas.
I don't know. Dallas is pretty bland IMO. Anyways, that also would be a result of free zoning is that it makes it rather hard to hide the less than favorable neighborhoods from visitors to the city. Honestly, doubt that the city has more "slums" than the other ones (especially sense Houston by far has the highest GDP of the four). I think it's more that people drive through the our "slums" because there isn't much of a buffer zone between the "slums" and the "nice" neighborhoods. For example, River Oaks is only like a ten minute drive from the 5th Ward. It is what it is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top