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If Baltimore has a metro then they probably have better public transit. BART is designed for covering the largest amount of area with the least amount of rail... it's good for going from one main area to the next but its not comprehensive. AC transit is only reliable on main drags (Broadway, Intl, MacArthur, MLK, etc).
Of all things to use to compare the two cities though, why public transit?
Yeah this doesn't surprise me... Baltimore still has o/a better public transit though.
Im inclined to agree.
But I still find it interesting that even with better public transit, more people in Baltimore drive alone, even if the difference is little.
In fact, I think its worth mentioning that many times, some people portray their cities as pleasuredomes of public transit but in every metro area, including NY, the majority of workers drive alone to work.
The City isn't all that Dense as its neighbors , Transit is slower then its neighbors.... If MD invested in MARC more and restored lines to Harrisburg , La Plata , and Warminster then Ridership on the Urban Network would be higher.
It always puzzled me that DC-Baltimore has such poor rail service. Other Northeastern cities carry frequent off-peak commuter service to much smaller cities of a similar distance. Such as Boston to Providence, Boston to Worcester, NYC to New Haven, NYC to Stamford / Bridgeport / New Haven, Philly to Wilmington and many others.
Perhaps the DC area focuess all its money on its subway rather than MARC / VRE?
It always puzzled me that DC-Baltimore has such poor rail service. Other Northeastern cities carry frequent off-peak commuter service to much smaller cities of a similar distance. Such as Boston to Providence, Boston to Worcester, NYC to New Haven, NYC to Stamford / Bridgeport / New Haven, Philly to Wilmington and many others.
Perhaps the DC area focuess all its money on its subway rather than MARC / VRE?
Lack of investment, older Rolling stock , bad frequency hench why only the NYC Metro Railways are used by alot. Which is sad because Septa , MARC , VRE and the MBTA could have an equal amount commute into any city by Regional Rail. Increasing service to 5-15 mins peak and hourly off peak is the quickest way to increase ridership , overhauling your trains and stations is another way like NJT does , and restoring the lines that saw service ended due to low ridership at the time but now serve dense corridors , MBTA and NJT are good at that. If everything goes well for NJT , MNRR , LIRR , and MBTA ridership should be around 550-780,000 by 2030....Reverse commuting is factored into that...
LIRR
Location : Long Island and Manhattan
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124 Future upgrades / Expansions : Wading River line Restoration , Central Branch , Montauk Branch , Port Jefferson Branch Electrification , East Side Access Project , City Core Rail line , Sunset Park line , Bi-Directional peak service , newer trains.
NJT Regional Rail
Location : New Jersey , Rockland and Orange counties NY
Daily Ridership : 330,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 750,000+)
System size : 536 mi
Stations : 162 stations Future Upgrades / Expansions : Flemington line , West Shore line, West Trenton line , Cape May line , Toms River line , Freehold line , Lehigh Valley line , Philpsburg Extension of the Morristown & Raritan Valley lines , Lackawanna line , Pompton line , Sparta line , 5 New Transfer Stations ,more Electrification , Newer Trains , and New stations
MNRR
Location : Northern NYC Suburbs and Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 287,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 620,000+)
System size : 156 mi
Stations : 120 Future upgrades / Expansions : MNRR expansion to Penn Station of the Hudson and New Haven lines , West Shore line , Restoration of the Graham & Beacon lines , Newer Trains , New stations
MBTA Regional Rail
Location : Eastern Massachusetts , Northern Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : 130,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 770,000+)
System size : 368 mi
Stations : 132 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of Cape Cod , Newport / Fall River line , New Bedford line, Woonsocket line , Milford / 495 line , Concord line , Portsmouth / Newburyport line , Manchester / Lawrence line.... North - South Tunnel , Ayer line , Planned Concord / Salem line
, Haverhill / Plaistow line , Greenfield / Fitchburg line , Electrified lines , Enhanced Service , More Frequency , New stations
Septa Regional Rail
Location : Southeastern PA , Northern Delaware , and Southern Jersey
Daily Ridership : 121,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 450 mi
Stations : 150 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of West Chester , Reading , Allentown , Stony Branch , Newton lines ....New lines , New Hope ,
Parkersburg Extension of the Thorndale line , Newark / Boothywn line , Coatesville line , Oxford lines , Enhanced Service and Frequency , New Trains and Refurbished Stations.
MARC Train
Location : Maryland
Daily Ridership : 33,000 (Projected 2040 Daily Ridership : 250,000)
System size : 187 mi
Stations : 43 Future Upgrades / Expansions : LA plata line and Extension of the Brunswick line to Hagerstorm , and Penn line Service to Wilmington , Warminster branch and Harrisburg lines , Upgrading stations , Newer Trains , more service
VRE Regional Rail
Location : Northern Virgina
Daily Ridership : 17,000 (Projected 2040 Ridership : 167,000)
System size : 90 mi
Stations : 18 Future Upgrades / Extensions : Haymarket , Culpepper , and Richmond lines , Enhanced service , Newer Trains , bidirectional service
CT DOT Regional Rail
Location : Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 135,000 (Projected 2040 Ridership : 690,000)
System size : 32 mi
Stations : 185 Future Upgrades / Extensions : Danbury Electrification , Restoration of the Pittsfield line , Extension of Shoreline East to Westerly,RI , Restoration of the Central Manchester Branch , Restoration of the Waterbury - Hartford line , Restoration of Torrington Branch , Restoration of the Connecticut River branch , Restoration of the Middletown branch , Waterbury Branch upgrades , Restoration of the Thames River / Worcester line , Upgrades to the New Haven line and more stations.
RIDOT Regional Rail
Location : Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : Not Known
System size : 14 mi
Stations : 2 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Restoration of the Woonsocket line , Upgrades to the Northeast Corridor (4 tracking) , Restoration of Cape Cod line , Fall River / Newport line , Central RI Amtrak Re-router line.
Amtrak Northeastern Divison
Location : Northeastern US
Daily Ridership : 50,000 (Projected 2040 ridership : 520,000)
System size : 2395 mi
Stations : 130 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Lackawanna Corridor , Lehigh Corridor , New Northeast Corridor , New Vermonter route , Downstate Delaware route , Elmira Connection , I-90 High Speed Rail corridor , New Haven - Springfield Intercity Rail corridor , Cape Cod Express , Downeaster extension to Brunswick , Lewiston and Bangor , Upgrades to All Northeast Corridor stations and other lines.
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