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Old 08-05-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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So you think culturally, DC is more similar to the rest of virginia than to other NE cities???
No I think culturally, DC is more similar to mid Atlantic cities like Norfolk, Richmond, Baltimore, and Philly than NE cities. I have a hard time thinking of Virginia as being southern since the metro regions(Hampton Roads, Richmond, and NOVA/DC) of Virginia where most of the population lives is very different from the rural parts. It was even a point of contention during the last election when the GOP said the western part of the state is the "real" Virginia. When you go to other cities that are in the south like Houston or Nashville, you definitely know that you're in the south even though you're in an urban area.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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I have a hard time thinking of Virginia as being southern since the metro regions(Hampton Roads, Richmond, and NOVA/DC) of Virginia where most of the population lives is very different from the rural parts.
How is this different from other states? There are both urban and rural versions of Southernness.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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How is this different from other states? There are both urban and rural versions of Southernness.
I answered that in my last post: they don't feel like southern cities.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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No I think culturally, DC is more similar to mid Atlantic cities like Norfolk, Richmond, Baltimore, and Philly than NE cities. I have a hard time thinking of Virginia as being southern since the metro regions(Hampton Roads, Richmond, and NOVA/DC) of Virginia where most of the population lives is very different from the rural parts. It was even a point of contention during the last election when the GOP said the western part of the state is the "real" Virginia. When you go to other cities that are in the south like Houston or Nashville, you definitely know that you're in the south even though you're in an urban area.

Not much of an issue with that. That was the main point... I mean does DC have more in common with Philly and Baltimore and even NYC or with the closest other southern major cities like... Charlotte or Atlanta. I have no problem with the midatlantic delineation ...it's just not culturally southern even as one state down in NC like Charlotte, Raleigh...etc.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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So you think culturally, DC is more similar to the rest of virginia than to other NE cities??? I mean, DC is below the Mason Dixon... but as the capital it is not technically in a southern NOR northern state. At this point though, you guys think DC is more culturally southern than northern???
D.C. is a southern city. No self respecting northerner would argue otherwise. Even culturally D.C. is NOTHING like Boston or NYC. Nothing like them from the accents, to the culture, even to their sports allegiance, or their casual conversations (icebreakers).

It's only chance of matching a northeastern culture is Philly but no self respecting Philadelphian will claim the similarities, because there are far and few from the beginning. D.C.'s culture is more in line with Raleigh, Richmond, even parts of Greater Atlanta.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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I answered that in my last post: they don't feel like southern cities.
I disagree, but okay. I couldn't put Richmond and Norfolk anywhere else BUT the South.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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DC is neither northern or southern. It is by itself in the mid-Atlantic. One of the most unique cities in the whole nation.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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That's interesting. I've never heard anyone in Norfolk or Richmond speak in a southern accent and I've been in both places my entire life basically. They only time I hear it is when I'm out in the country or speaking to someone from out in the country.
I have. Keep in mind that Southern accents are not the same everywhere you go. Houston people do not sound like Atlantans. Memphians do not like sound like Miamians. Charlotteans do not sound like New Orleanians.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Beg to differ with that last pairing. You don't hear hints of Gullah or even full-out Gullah among Black residents of Norfolk.
Well yeah. But still, Norfolk blacks still have a Southern accent.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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No I think culturally, DC is more similar to mid Atlantic cities like Norfolk, Richmond, Baltimore, and Philly than NE cities. I have a hard time thinking of Virginia as being southern since the metro regions(Hampton Roads, Richmond, and NOVA/DC) of Virginia where most of the population lives is very different from the rural parts. It was even a point of contention during the last election when the GOP said the western part of the state is the "real" Virginia. When you go to other cities that are in the south like Houston or Nashville, you definitely know that you're in the south even though you're in an urban area.
Could you explain this? How is that Hampton Roads and Richmond so much different compared to Houston (especially) and Nashville? How is that the latter two retain their Southern qualities as you say and not Richmond and Hampton Roads. You are the very first Virginian on this board that has argued that Virginia isn't a Southern state. What makes Virginia, a state historically very Southern, so much different than the other border state of Texas, which is also historically very Southern.
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