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It's the primary dense job node, in addition to being the cultural capital, the tourism center, and the "face" of the region. I bet a lot of SJ residents say they're from SF when overseas.
Many metros have more jobs and residents outside the central municipality than inside. And they divide up those outer areas in whatever way makes sense as it happens, generally piecemeal. In SJ's case one particularly large zone has agglomerated including both an old regional subcenter and a lot of basic suburbia. That has nothing to do with what kind of center it is.
As for those metro numbers, that's county boundaries and Census Dept. procedure but not really telling about how things work. It's continuous "city" and they simply divided it by county lines. They did that because the developed corridor is narrower than the standards require for a single MSA. Regardless, county lines aren't a surgical method of explaining what's on the ground, just a convenient standard for easy statistics.
I think a lot of people at this point reference Silicon Valley rather than San Francisco for the same thing. It's actually a fairly well known term at this point and translated into multiple major languages, so the San Francisco connection isn't absolutely necessary anymore.
Not really. Oakland is experiencing a major Urban Renaissance, the likes of which has only been seen in Brooklyn and Chicago recently. Not quite Manhattan or SF levels, but Brooklyn or Chicago for sure.
OyCrumbler, I'd say people refer to Silicon Valley as where they work, but I bet San Francisco stands in usually for where they live if they're overseas. In the US they might say "Bay Area" but even then it can confuse people from some regions like Tampa / St. Petersburg (who have the additional probem of people thinking their top city is named "Tampa Bay."
OyCrumbler, I'd say people refer to Silicon Valley as where they work, but I bet San Francisco stands in usually for where they live if they're overseas. In the US they might say "Bay Area" but even then it can confuse people from some regions like Tampa / St. Petersburg (who have the additional probem of people thinking their top city is named "Tampa Bay."
San Jose is very well known through out the world, much more than being known in the U.S. since the rest of the country doesn't know San Jose, the least known biggest city in the U.S.. It's not the case in Europe and Asia. That's surprising to me, too, but that's the case.
Kansas City. San Jose seemed ok and all, but it's fairly minor for what you expect from a downtown.
You never been there. It's even better than Chicago's Loop since it doesn't have a full service grocery store(South Loop doesn't count). There's no movie theater in the Loop, too. It's just office/apt. for students with some shopping on improved State Street. Other than theater district, not much else here in the Loop. Downtown SJ is major league since it has everything. Downtown SJ is substantial, that's what I'm saying.
The Loop is basically a financial district. Bigger cities often work that way, with a big office core that pushes other uses outward. The City of London and Downtown Manhattan are like that too. That said, the Loop does have a decent number of residents and seems to have a decent variety of groceries, including larger formats like Target.
A smaller downtown has the luxury of being able to fit other uses closer in, because it lacks the big office core. SJ is successful that way.
That's not what the plan is for Loop. They hope to make it mixed used with entertainment, clubs, movie theaters, grocery stores and others. They want it to become an urban neighborhood just like Downtown San Jose. That's the plan by the city of Chicago: turn it into multi-use downtown in the future, not just financial center. The Loop only has City Target for grocery and that's it unless they just added another one that I don't know of. It would be after all this time of nothing but office district. Actually, it's for another discussion in the Chicago forum. I should stick to Downtown SJ vs Kansas City. Chicago has nothing to do with this subject. We should stick to this forum subject.
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