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View Poll Results: Are these 7 more on the international stage than the other cities of North America?
Yes! 65 91.55%
Nahhh, I don't agree with this for whatever reason 6 8.45%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-24-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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of course it does
I was being sarcastic. I knew this would turn into an anti-Chicago trash fest.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Wrong. Whoever told you this (can you tell us who it was) lied to you.

Toronto ranks #16 in the Global City Index (Global city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), higher than San Francisco or Mexico City.

Toronto ranks #12 in the Global City Competitiveness Index (Hot Spots | MANAGEMENT THINKING), higher than San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Mexico City.

Toronto ranks #9 in the World City Survey, higher than Chicago, Washington DC, Mexico City, and San Francisco.

Toronto is an Alpha World City, same level as L.A., SF, and DC.

What does the fact that you "went there" have to do with anything? Visiting a place does not qualify you to know what it's Economic Output is. That's just a stupid statement.
This is interesting and really does prove that Boston should be mentioned in this discussion if Toronto is as well.

Global City-All around: Boston 15th/Toronto 16th
Competitiveness: Boston 10th/Toronto 12th
Power City Index: Boston 16th/Toronto 25th
World City Survey: Toronto 9th/Boston Not in Top 20
GaWC: Toronto: Alpha/Boston: Alpha -

Also another interesting study by the Toronto Board of Trade: http://www.bot.com/Content/Navigatio...2011_Final.pdf

Boston: 4th
Toronto: 8th

Even with all of this I find it hard to convincingly say Boston is more influential than SF/Silicon Valley.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Mexico City probably is first.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Mexico City probably is first.
That would be NYC
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: L.A./O.C.
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1. NYC, MEX
2. LA
3. Toronto, DC, CHI
4. Bay Area
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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I really dont think Toronto should even be in the same tier as DC, Chicago, and SF Bay let alone represented when Boston's not. Toronto's much closer to Boston than any place listed in this thread IMO. If this thread were a work place environ Toronto and Boston would be interns among the more experienced professionals IMO.

Come and get me Canadians, I went there. Your most important city would be at best our sixth city in the U.S. and it would still have to answer to Boston before all is done.
Let's see...

Boston ...city population 645,000
Greater Boston (MSA) 4.6 million
Boston CSA 7.5 million ....a whopping 4,700 square mile area
including most of southern New Hampshire ....
Manchester, Concord, Nashua, even Laconia (LOL) and Rhode Island
Massachusetts state population is only 6.5 million

Toronto....city population 2.6 million
Greater Toronto Area (GTA) 6 million
Toronto including Golden Horseshoe (equivalent to US CSA) 8.5 million
Ontario population 13.5 million
If it was a state it would be 5th largest in population
only behind California, Texas, New York, and Florida

Toronto is the biggest city in Canada, therefore most head offices,
distribution hub, transportation hub, banking/financial (and stock exchange) for the county,
including alot of Canada's $ 1.7 trillion GDP

Boston is just another big US city, there are a number
of US cities that can take on Boston....
Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Miami
they're pretty big too (and have bigger MSA's than Boston)

In North America it's...
Mexico City (biggest population, NYC a bigger economic powerhouse)
New York
Los Angeles
Chicago
then..... Toronto (it's 5th)

Last edited by philobeddoe; 04-24-2012 at 08:35 PM..
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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^ I agree. Although the 2011 census had the Golden Horseshoe at 8.8 million - even more in Toronto's favour.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: So California
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Originally Posted by philobeddoe View Post
Let's see...

Boston ...city population 645,000
Greater Boston (MSA) 4.6 million
Boston CSA 7.5 million ....a whopping 4,700 square mile area
including most of southern New Hampshire ....
Manchester, Concord, Nashua, even Laconia (LOL) and Rhode Island
Massachusetts state population is only 6.5 million

Toronto....city population 2.6 million
Greater Toronto Area (GTA) 6 million
Toronto including Golden Horseshoe (equivalent to US CSA) 8.5 million
Ontario population 13.5 million
If it was a state it would be 5th largest in population
only behind California, Texas, New York, and Florida

Toronto is the biggest city in Canada, therefore most head offices,
distribution hub, transportation hub, banking/financial (and stock exchange) for the county,
including alot of Canada's $ 1.7 trillion GDP

Boston is just another big US city, there are a number
of US cities that can take on Boston....
Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Miami
they're pretty big too (and have bigger MSA's than Boston)

In North America it's...
Mexico City (biggest population, NYC a bigger economic powerhouse)
New York
Los Angeles
Chicago
then..... Toronto (it's 5th)

Golden Horseshoe 12,185.99 sq mi

Its say GTA is duking it out with DC, SF, then the rest....
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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On aggregate...

1. NYC


2A. Chicago
2B. Los Angeles

3A. Washington DC
3B. Toronto

4. Bay Area

5. Mexico City
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I feel like everyone is lowering the importance of DC and Toronto. With the U.S. federal government being headquartered in DC, that obviously gives it substantial power. No other industry can compete with the government. Toronto is the biggest city in Canada and the Golden Horseshoe has seen huge population growth. It's also home to a rapidly growing skyline and is the most diverse city in the world.

My list would be this:
1. NYC/Mexico City
2. LA/DC
3. Golden Horseshoe (Toronto)
4. Chicago
5. Bay Area
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