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Old 07-31-2015, 10:14 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Boston leads, Philly follows, for independence, abolition, industrialization, unionization etc.
basically everything but Women's rights which started out west.
do you know why Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence?
Pennsylvania abolished slavery three years before Massachusetts did. Furthermore, the Pennsylvania Abolition Society was the first abolitionist society founded in the colonies. Pennsylvania also ratified the U.S. Constitution before Massachusetts did.
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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Pennsylvania abolished slavery three years before Massachusetts did. Furthermore, the Pennsylvania Abolition Society was the first abolitionist society founded in the colonies. Pennsylvania also ratified the U.S. Constitution before Massachusetts did.
somewhat true, although the law passed prior, the last slave was freed in Massachusetts long before PA because PA had gradual emancipation (you could not get a new slave after 1780) while Massachusetts has immediate freedom granted in 1783.
Also constitution=/= independence.
The first follower is very important, about as important as the leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQ
pretty much Boston v Philly with Boston being the Shirtless dude, and Philly that second guy.
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:08 AM
 
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Here is something everyone can learn today.

Philadelphia had a Tea Party two months before Boston did, which are the first true acts of protest against the British.
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The Philadelphia Tea Party was an incident in October 16, 1773, two months before the more famous Boston Tea Party, in which a British tea ship was intercepted by American colonists and forced to return its cargo to Great Britain.
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Word was received in North America by September, 1773, that East India Company tea shipments were on their way. Philadelphians held a town meeting on October 16 at the Pennsylvania State House (now known as Independence Hall). This meeting was organized by Dr. Benjamin Rush, Colonel William Bradford, Attorney General William Bradford, Thomas Mifflin, Dr. Thomas Cadwalader, and other local leaders and members of the Philadelphia Sons of Liberty. They adopted eight resolutions, one of which stated: "That the duty imposed by Parliament upon tea landed in America is a tax on the Americans, or levying contributions on them without their consent." The most important one read:
“That the resolution lately entered into by the East India Company, to send out their tea to America subject to the payment of duties on its being landed here, is an open attempt to enforce the ministerial plan, and a violent attack upon the liberties of America. ”Printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette, these declarations comprised the first public protest against the importation of taxed tea from England.
In Boston three weeks later, a town meeting at Faneuil Hall declared "That the sense of this town cannot be better expressed than in the words of certain judicious resolves, lately entered into by our worthy brethren, the citizens of Philadelphia." Indeed, Bostonians adopted the same resolutions that Philadelphians had promulgated earlier. The Boston Tea Party followed just a few weeks later, on December 16, 1773.
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Restrained as it was compared to Boston's, the Philadelphia Tea Party was one of the incidents that led to the calling of the Continental Congress at Carpenters' Hall in Philadelphia the following September. Furthermore, in 1809, Dr. Benjamin Rush wrote to John Adams:
“ I once heard you say [that] the active business of the American Revolution began in Philadelphia in the act of her citizens in sending back the tea ship, and that Massachusetts would have received her portion of the tea had not our example encouraged her to expect union and support in destroying it... The flame kindled on that day [October 16, 1773] soon extended to Boston and gradually spread throughout the whole continent. It was the first throe of that convulsion which delivered Great Britain of the United States. ”
Both Pennsylvania and Philadelphia were regarded as having been far more conservative before and during the Revolutionary War than the New England colonies and most of the Southern colonies—and this historic reputation persists to this day. But the Philadelphia Tea Party highlights that the radicals of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania played a much more active role in the American Revolution than generally acknowledged.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Tea_Party

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Old 08-07-2015, 02:33 AM
 
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Sorry Boston, when it comes to history, Philadelphia is first.
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Old 08-07-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Philadelphia's living in the past, while Boston's shaping the future.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Philadelphia's living in the past, while Boston's shaping the future.
Fact: All major cities/metro areas are shaping the future. No one city has a corner on that.
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Old 08-07-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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Philadelphia's living in the past, while Boston's shaping the future.
Can you give an example?
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Old 08-07-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Philadelphia's living in the past, while Boston's shaping the future.

Deflated football shapes?
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Old 08-07-2015, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philadelphia's living in the past, while Boston's shaping the future.
How exactly is Boston shaping the future? How is Philadelphia not? Plenty of tech and medical wonders happening in Philadelphia as well. Like for instance, the Center for Advanced Cellular Therapeutics currently under construction between Penn and Novartis will be a game changer in the fight against cancer:
Center for Advanced Cellular Therapeutics to Rise on Penn Medicine Campus
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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Here is something everyone can learn today.

Philadelphia had a Tea Party two months before Boston did, which are the first true acts of protest against the British.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Tea_Party
Really, August, 26th 1765, Gov. Hutchinson house is sacked and he is chased out of town.
In 1765, Rebels Sacked the Boston Mansion of Thomas Hutchinson - New England Historical Society
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