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Metropolitans by Total Hispanic Population:
- Los Angeles: 8,206,577
- New York: 4,903,875
- Miami: 2,369,074
- Houston: 2,218,894
- Chicago: 2,020,341
- Dallas: 1,875,995
- Bay Area: 1,846,994
- Washington: 806,207
- Boston: 699,068
- Atlanta: 623,428
- Philadelphia: 598,043
Metropolitans by Hispanic Population (exclusion of their largest Hispanic group):
- New York: 3,444,749 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Los Angeles: 1,553,897 (excluding Mexicans)
- Miami: 1,328,551 (excluding Cubans)
- Washington: 529,710 (excluding El Salvadorans)
- Houston: 503,642 (excluding Mexicans)
- Boston: 470,871 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Bay Area: 434,769 (excluding Mexicans)
- Chicago: 412,412 (excluding Mexicans)
- Philadelphia: 279,595 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Dallas: 269,274 (excluding Mexicans)
- Atlanta: 256,086 (excluding Mexicans)
Metropolitans by Mexican Population:
- Los Angeles: 6,652,680
- Houston: 1,715,252
- Chicago: 1,607,929
- Dallas: 1,606,721
- Bay Area: 1,412,225
- New York: 642,472
- Atlanta: 367,342
- Miami: 134,944
- Washington: 119,803
- Philadelphia: 116,859
- Boston: 52,388
That being the case:
- Tier One (in any order): Miami, New York, Los Angeles
- Tier Two (in any order): Houston, Chicago, the Metroplex, Bay Area
- Tier Three (in any order): Washington DC, Boston
- Tier Four (in any order): Phoenix, Denver, San Diego, San Antonio, Albuquerque, Tucson, El Paso
Then the rest of the country.
If I had to pick just one then Miami for sure.
Yeah, the cities in Tier 4 need to be switched with the tier 3 cities. I can't see DC or Boston being ahead of any of those cities in tier 4.
Miami should be on a tier of their own above NYC by far.
The major difference is the Latin culture dominates Miami in a way it does not in NYC.
This can also be seen in Latin population totals in relation to the total metro population. I also think they have had a heavy presence in Miami for a longer time. (admittedly the last part is speculation)
I'm conveniently ignoring Los Angeles... I just haven't spent enough time there to really know first hand.
But to me Miami deserves a place of its own above NYC.
I would also say the same thing about the Texas cities over the bay area.
I also think Miami deserves props for their diversity within the Latin American culture. There is alot there beyond Cubans and the rest isn't simply dominated by Mexicans like many other cities.
Holy crap. L.A. is by far the second largest Mexican city in the world after Mexico City. And for Hispanic population (excluding Brazilian cities) L.A. is 5th in the world
The thing Miami has above all other cities is not the amount of Hispanics obviously NYC and LA are much larger cities but Miami has a greater diversity of Hispanics and more importantly Miami is a business, cultural and entertainment hub of Latin America and also a commerce/transportation hub of Latin America.
The thing Miami has above all other cities is not the amount of Hispanics obviously NYC and LA are much larger cities but Miami has a greater diversity of Hispanics and more importantly Miami is a business, cultural and entertainment hub of Latin America and also a commerce/transportation hub of Latin America.
I agree, Miami is more "Latin" than L.A. (although both are very Latin). L.A. has a significant Asian influence, which mitigates the "Latin-ness" somewhat.
If we were talking only Mexico and Central America, L.A. would probably win, but Latin America also encompasses the Caribbean and South America, and Miami dominates in those geographies.
I would switch your tier 3 and 4 with each other. Phoenix, San Diego, San Antonio etc. feel FAR more "Latin" influenced than DC or Boston.
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Originally Posted by polo89
Yeah, the cities in Tier 4 need to be switched with the tier 3 cities. I can't see DC or Boston being ahead of any of those cities in tier 4.
Sure, you can combine Boston, Washington, and Atlanta (I originally forgot it) and put it as "Tier 3B" and then put Phoenix, Denver, Las Vegas, San Diego, San Antonio, El Paso, Tucson, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City and call it tier "3A".
I stand by my post mostly because this thread is NOT about what cities are more Mexican but instead about all Latinos and or Hispanics and let's be real here, coming in strong in one doesn't give you a pass for skipping over every other nationality of Latinos. Not saying these places don't have them but seriously, it's paltry.
Boston aguably has the largest Brazilian population outside of Brazil, Washington for El Salvadorans, so should we really overlook that as well as their larger presence of other Latinos because overall they lack "Latino numbers" because El Paso, San Diego, Denver, or San Antonio have a large Mexican population with everything else being paltry?
Sure, you can combine Boston, Washington, and Atlanta (I originally forgot it) and put it as "Tier 3B" and then put Phoenix, Denver, Las Vegas, San Diego, San Antonio, El Paso, Tucson, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City and call it tier "3A".
I stand by my post mostly because this thread is NOT about what cities are more Mexican but instead about all Latinos and or Hispanics and let's be real here, coming in strong in one doesn't give you a pass for skipping over every other nationality of Latinos. Not saying these places don't have them but seriously, it's paltry.
Boston aguably has the largest Brazilian population outside of Brazil, Washington for El Salvadorans, so should we really overlook that as well as their larger presence of other Latinos because overall they lack "Latino numbers" because El Paso, San Diego, Denver, or San Antonio have a large Mexican population with everything else being paltry?
The question is which city feels more "Latin". If you put me in the middle of El Paso or in the middle of Boston, I'm pretty sure I'd know which felt more "Latin", regardless of where that "Latin-ness" came from.
The question is which city feels more "Latin". If you put me in the middle of El Paso or in the middle of Boston, I'm pretty sure I'd know which felt more "Latin", regardless of where that "Latin-ness" came from.
You're right this isn't the place to argue this. It's hipcat's thread and it's concurrent with your point, which was one well made.
That said, perhaps I look deeper for everything than just "Mexican" this and that.
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