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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Washington D.C. 21 14.89%
Philadelphia P.A. 120 85.11%
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Philadelphia Vs. Washington D.C.
Over at the Boston Vs. D.C. Thread a few posters from the DMV Argued that DC is more built up/urban then Philadelphia. I tried to explain that DC is no where near Philly in this regard and they continue to post stats about a 0.87 sm neighborhood called Columbia Heights. I know Philly is more urban at the core, and over a wide span. Philly has the 3rd highest population from city hall after SF, and NYC.

D.C is in a building boom right now, as well as Philly to a lesser extent, cranes everywhere. Philadelphias density is only topped a little by SF, and alot by NYC.

Philly also has a x2.5 larger population. So what do you all think? Which is more build up, and which is denser?
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'm not from DC.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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Don't mess up my thread please. Just answer the question, and back up what you say.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Philadelphia, definitely. Far narrower streets, much tighter density, and was a big city many decades earlier than DC, so pre-auto density extends way the heck out.

Hell, Philly is arguably #2 after NYC in terms of pre-auto density. You see rowhouses and narrow streets many miles out from downtown in all directions, even in some suburbs. In DC, you have postwar suburban-style development just a few miles from downtown.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Philadelphia (11,457/sq mi) is only slightly denser than Washington (10,298/sq mi).
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Philadelphia (11,457/sq mi) is only slightly denser than Washington (10,298/sq mi).
Which is the whole point. It's nearly three times the size, has huge abandoned areas, and still higher density than DC. And that density extends well into the suburbs, which isn't generally the case for DC.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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Philadelphia (11,457/sq mi) is only slightly denser than Washington (10,298/sq mi).
That's amazing. Basically if Philly had D.C's borders the density would be 22,814/ppsm. Philly has over double the area and still is denser. Sheesh.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Philadelphia for sure. Washington DC and NOVA is the king of sprawl.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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As far as structural density, Philly is the most dense in the country. I'd put Philly, Baltimore, NYC, Boston, SF ahead of DC.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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According to this great chart from Dweebo, Philadelphia is a little bit more structurally dense than DC.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/28953455-post56.html

Philly, DC, LA and Boston are all in about the same league of structural density, at least going by housing units per square mile. Where Philly pulls ahead is in the 7-10 miles from its most densest tract, which makes sense because it is a much larger city. Bajan's logic (might have been in the other thread) makes sense to me, DC has better inner neighborhoods but downtown DC is not quite up to par with Center City - with the addition that Philly again goes ahead in the inner suburbs / streetcar suburbs.

It does sound like DC has a much more dense future ahead of it, perhaps it will break into the league with Chicago and San Francisco in the next few decades.
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