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That first pic of Brooklyn wasn't impressive and that skyline in the Back was manhattan. Also those other pics do not compares AT ALL to Phillys pics. Philly hits density of 128k ppsm, with the rest being around 60 ppsm. Now we're just talking about downtowns here
That first pic of Brooklyn wasn't impressive and that skyline in the Back was manhattan. Also those other pics do not compares AT ALL to Phillys pics. Philly hits density of 128k ppsm, with the rest being around 60 ppsm. Now we're just talking about downtowns here
Lets not talk about density. Overall you will lose.
Our skyline isn't top tier, just yet. However from certain angles you will see Manhattan. In NY you have 1WTC in your backyard? Default win.
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Originally Posted by TheBigGeo08
Downtown Brooklyn is worse than Philly's worst hoods.
Yeah. You're a perfect example of someone who haven't been to Brooklyn, especially Downtown Brooklyn, in years.
Lets not talk about density. Overall you will lose.
Not just overall, he will lose under any conceivable metric (except perhaps a few isolated census tracts). The 1 sq mile centered on Downtown Bklyn has a density of 38k psm.
Not sure why this thread exists...other than Barclay Center and that outdoor mall, Brooklyn's downtown is almost nonexistent. Now if we're comparing the actual borough of Brooklyn to Philadelphia, it gets much more interesting.
If Philly's downtown is all of Center City, then Brooklyn's should be downtown including its adjacent neighborhoods to form an area of something like 2 square miles. That then includes DUMBO and possibly the Navy Yard both of which are tech hotbeds. It should also include Brooklyn Heights and at least a portion of Fort Greene which means nice, tony neighborhoods, a great waterfront, and a fantastic performing arts with the Brooklyn Academy of Music. It's really not so bad.
Actually, what do you guys think an apt comparison for Center City would be for Brooklyn? Maybe Community Board 2 (though larger than Center City)? Community Board 2 minus Clinton Hill and Boerum Hill?
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Originally Posted by rainrock
Ive been trying to tell these dudes that they underestimate Center City severely .
Lets not talk about density. Overall you will lose.
Our skyline isn't top tier, just yet. However from certain angles you will see Manhattan. In NY you have 1WTC in your backyard? Default win.
Yeah. You're a perfect example of someone who haven't been to Brooklyn, especially Downtown Brooklyn, in years.
Oh no lets talk density, because you haven't been to Philadelphia um NEVER. And in FACT I am always in Brooklyn, was there two weeks ago, in queens too first of all, I know Brooklyn and its downtown very well. Second Center City Philadelphia is extreamly denser then Brooklyn, and its downtown, im not talking about the city of Philly, im talking about DOWNTOWN Philly.
With density's from 128k ppsm to 60 ppsm only, Philly is only topped by Midtown, and SF downtown... You must be confused.
Philly's Center City is the 2nd largest and densest downtown in the U.S. Only Midtown Manhattan > Philly. Otherwise, Philly > the rest of the country when it comes to urbanity.
Oh no lets talk density, because you haven't been to Philadelphia um NEVER. And in FACT I am always in Brooklyn, was there two weeks ago, in queens too first of all, I know Brooklyn and its downtown very well. Second Center City Philadelphia is extreamly denser then Brooklyn, and its downtown, im not talking about the city of Philly, im talking about DOWNTOWN Philly.
With density's from 128k ppsm to 60 ppsm only, Philly is only topped by Midtown, and SF downtown... You must be confused.
No. By residential density, downtown Brooklyn is quite a bit higher than Center City.
If Philly's downtown is all of Center City, then Brooklyn's should be downtown including its adjacent neighborhoods to form an area of something like 2 square miles. That then includes DUMBO and possibly the Navy Yard both of which are tech hotbeds. It should also include Brooklyn Heights and at least a portion of Fort Greene which means nice, tony neighborhoods, a great waterfront, and a fantastic performing arts with the Brooklyn Academy of Music. It's really not so bad.
The Navy Yard feels a bit outside of downtown. North of Atlantic and east of Flatbush seems like the strictest definition of Downtown Brooklyn, but I'd expand it a few blocks southward and eastward.
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