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Old 11-07-2007, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I don't think anyone is wishing California any foreboding doom at all. Cali has a very severe housing affordability crisis, exacerbated by the mortgage woes. Many companies are fleeing Cali's high tax base. Illegals are continuing to flood the state, taxing the infrastructure. On top of all that, a water crisis could loom soon worse than georgia's. If they can surmount all those hoops, they are indeed blessed by divine providence. I think the northeast AND midwest has the same challenges, particularly Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. I just see the south winning at this point, as a vassel non-union state of choice with the cheapest labor in the USA. It's the only region scavenging jobs from the midwest,west, and Asia. Add Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida to the mix, and the south wins hands down, actually at the cost of the rest of the country, in a zero-sum sense. They win, we all lose.........
Oh dont be so doom and gloom about everything. You know no one knows the future. Places that are booming now are not guaranteed anything. For all we know, South Dakota could one day surpass California.

Look at Alberta up in Canada. They were in the doldrums a few years back, but the discovery of oil deposits in the sand of the northern sections of that province have seen a boom that has propelled it to a level that is all the envy of the other provinces.

 
Old 11-07-2007, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Since you did this ranking solely based on size, I would suggest a few adjustments. Omaha has >400,000 people. Richmond has <200,000. They should be switched. Boulder does not even have 100,000, and is irrelevant.

No you're comparing metros with cities standalones, the metro for Richmond is well over a million, Omaha's is about what you stated.
Latest census shows Omaha's metro nearing 900K / City 450K
 
Old 11-07-2007, 01:37 PM
 
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I concur.

In that case..
Tier 1(in order) World Cities that are entities unto themselves.
New York, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Francisco
As far as being famous around the world, I think these 4 are the most known US Cities. They are the epicenters of power in many of the US' most influential business sectors, NY, LA and SF have been the biggest destinations of immigrants in that order for 6 decades now. Washington DC is the most influential political center probably in the world. The nations greatest concentration of wealthy individuals are in NY, LA, SF and DC. Cultural Revolutions and world altering business innovations have begun in these places. All you have to do is say these cities' names and clear images instantly conjur up in peoples minds.

Tier 1a Not quite as iconic as the above, but World Cities nonetheless
Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Miami, Seattle, Philadelphia, Detroit, Las Vegas, Minneapolis, Denver, St Louis
Very important US cities, dominate in many areas economically and culturally and are world class in the amenities they offer.

Tier 2
All other Cities.
There ya go!!
 
Old 11-07-2007, 01:48 PM
 
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Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but is anyone aware of the Ranally city rating system?

It essentially does what we're trying to do here: ranking U.S. cities into tiers/groupings based on objective, scientifically verifiable criteria—especially economic, demographic, etc.

The method is proprietary to Rand McNally and is published regularly in their Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide.

Not surprisingly, much of what I've seen on this thread reflects what they've spent decades and top dollars to discover
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:05 PM
 
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Thanks, LancasterNative. These are pretty similar to the rankings I posted ealier. NY is in a league of its own....how many times I have to repeat this

Ranally city rating Description Examples (* indicates a complete listing)
1-AAAA Unique rating for New York New York*
1-AAA Unique rating for Chicago and Los Angeles Chicago, Los Angeles*
1-AA Major national business centers Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Miami, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C. (13 cities)*


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Originally Posted by downtown1
Tier-1: New York (sorry Chicago & LA... but NY is in a league of its own)

Tier-2: Chicago, LA

Tier-3: Houston, San Francisco, DC, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta

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Originally Posted by LancasterNative View Post
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but is anyone aware of the Ranally city rating system?

It essentially does what we're trying to do here: ranking U.S. cities into tiers/groupings based on objective, scientifically verifiable criteria—especially economic, demographic, etc.

The method is proprietary to Rand McNally and is published regularly in their Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide.

Not surprisingly, much of what I've seen on this thread reflects what they've spent decades and top dollars to discover

Last edited by downtown1; 11-07-2007 at 02:16 PM..
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Originally Posted by LancasterNative View Post
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but is anyone aware of the Ranally city rating system?

It essentially does what we're trying to do here: ranking U.S. cities into tiers/groupings based on objective, scientifically verifiable criteria—especially economic, demographic, etc.

The method is proprietary to Rand McNally and is published regularly in their Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide.

Not surprisingly, much of what I've seen on this thread reflects what they've spent decades and top dollars to discover
Yes, THANK YOU SO MUCH. That ought to settle this stupid thread. I hope
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:12 PM
 
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Yes, THANK YOU SO MUCH. That ought to settle this stupid thread. I hope
Ha! You bet...

I think what struck me funniest was how the random people who've contributed to this thread so far—ordinary Americans from all walks of life—largely reached the same conclusions as the professional marketing researchers/experts with years of experience
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Originally Posted by LancasterNative View Post
Ha! You bet...

I think what struck me funniest was how the random people who've contributed to this thread so far—ordinary Americans from all walks of life—largely reached the same conclusions as the professional marketing researchers/experts with years of experience
Wat can we sey, weer all Geniuss !
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yes, THANK YOU SO MUCH. That ought to settle this stupid thread. I hope
settle what? As far as importance in business which is what that Rand McNally study looks at, we are all in total agreement.

But when weighing other factors, opinions differ and so do the experts.
 
Old 11-07-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by LancasterNative View Post
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but is anyone aware of the Ranally city rating system?

It essentially does what we're trying to do here: ranking U.S. cities into tiers/groupings based on objective, scientifically verifiable criteria—especially economic, demographic, etc.

The method is proprietary to Rand McNally and is published regularly in their Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide.

Not surprisingly, much of what I've seen on this thread reflects what they've spent decades and top dollars to discover
I used to use Rand McNally's Commercial Atlas all the time for reference, its a huge, oversized book that is as big as a coffee table top.

Anyway,
Among the areas they rank are Major Trade Areas. There are a total of 51 in the US and I consider them the US equivalents of City-States, where a city's true influence is measured.
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