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Not here in the DMV, we don't mess with syrup. Can't comment on other cities/regions.
It's not really that big anywhere but Houston and honestly, it's stupid anyway. Crap killed a couple of their people in the scene including one of the the most iconic and rappers still glorified it.
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Nah and mainstream big sean is hit and miss. underground big sean>>>>>>>>>>>>mainstream big sean.
Eh, I think Drake and Nicki are immensely talented, and deserve all the success they've gotten. Two great lyricists who have revolutionized the game by actually being able to carry a tune (sorry, Ja). Yea, they make a lot of commercial crap, but they still drop gems too, despite not being underground. If Drake was still underground, 0-100 would still be his sound--they haven't lost touch.
And as far as underground, for the most part, I hate underground rappers. There's usually a REASON why they're still underground. Lyrics can only get you so far if your beats are garbage, your hooks suck, and you don't understand how to make a hit. Yea, there's industry politics, but for the most part, people stuck in the underground deserve to be there. Though I will agree that rappers good enough to make it can lose their hunger once they've arrived. Not too sure on your Big Sean example, but I'll take your word. I still think, though, the 4 names I've mentioned are still very good even as mainstream rappers.
It's not really that big anywhere but Houston and honestly, it's stupid anyway. Crap killed a couple of their people in the scene including one of the the most iconic and rappers still glorified it.
Yeah, it's only a matter of time before an iconic rapper chokes on that molly too smh.
Eh, I think Drake and Nicki are immensely talented, and deserve all the success they've gotten. Two great lyricists who have revolutionized the game by actually being able to carry a tune (sorry, Ja). Yea, they make a lot of commercial crap, but they still drop gems too, despite not being underground. If Drake was still underground, 0-100 would still be his sound--they haven't lost touch.
And as far as underground, for the most part, I hate underground rappers. There's usually a REASON why they're still underground. Lyrics can only get you so far if your beats are garbage, your hooks suck, and you don't understand how to make a hit. Yea, there's industry politics, but for the most part, people stuck in the underground deserve to be there. Though I will agree that rappers good enough to make it can lose their hunger once they've arrived. Not too sure on your Big Sean example, but I'll take your word. I still think, though, the 4 names I've mentioned are still very good even as mainstream rappers.
Meek Mill would like a few words with you LOL I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Drake fan, and 0 to 100 definitely had some hunger in it...Felt like listening to 2007/2008 Drake all over again!
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Meek Mill would like a few words with you LOL I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Drake fan, and 0 to 100 definitely had some hunger in it...Felt like listening to 2007/2008 Drake all over again!
Lol yea, I knew Meek would make his way in to the conversation! Hopefully, this will be more interesting/longer than Common/Drake was (looove stay scheming still)! I like Meek, too, but I find he only works in small doses. Good rapper, but I feel he's always shouting or mumbling--no in between. It's no coincidence his biggest hits are all straight club bangers where he's shouting lol.
And yea to that on 0-100! Definitely felt the hunger!
Eh, I think Drake and Nicki are immensely talented, and deserve all the success they've gotten. Two great lyricists who have revolutionized the game by actually being able to carry a tune (sorry, Ja). Yea, they make a lot of commercial crap, but they still drop gems too, despite not being underground. If Drake was still underground, 0-100 would still be his sound--they haven't lost touch.
And as far as underground, for the most part, I hate underground rappers. There's usually a REASON why they're still underground. Lyrics can only get you so far if your beats are garbage, your hooks suck, and you don't understand how to make a hit. Yea, there's industry politics, but for the most part, people stuck in the underground deserve to be there. Though I will agree that rappers good enough to make it can lose their hunger once they've arrived. Not too sure on your Big Sean example, but I'll take your word. I still think, though, the 4 names I've mentioned are still very good even as mainstream rappers.
If Nicki and Drake are so called lyricists today than yeah, mainstream rappers today do suck. And most underground rappers just simply don't like dealing with the politics in the industry.
If Nicki and Drake are so called lyricists today than yeah, mainstream rappers today do suck. And most underground rappers just simply don't like dealing with the politics in the industry.
I think there is a good in between in rap today. Yes, the most mainstream artist beyond a few a pretty terrible, there are still great artist who I wouldn't consider underground who are great rappers. There are many in the LA area who are very popular but wouldn't consider pop or underground. (Earl, Vince, Dom, Nipssey) etc.
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If Nicki and Drake are so called lyricists today than yeah, mainstream rappers today do suck. And most underground rappers just simply don't like dealing with the politics in the industry.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I find both Drake and Nicki still lyrical--"commercial" (re: good beats and hooks with bar structure) but still lyrical.
And I don't agree that most underground rappers like to stay that way. Let's face it: everybody wants success. It's just a lot of underground rappers are so stubborn, they don't want to fix what's wrong. Or even more likely, they simply can't. So I guess what happens is we get "mainstream" underground rappers who will never really "blow". They'll get a feature with somebody who's hot, if they're lucky, and they'll sell out small venues, but that's about it. You think Action Bronson or Termanalogy will ever really blow? Lol. Guys like this always start off hot with great buzz off one or two mixtapes, fail to make a hit, and they're stuck on the mixtape circuit for life as their music gets ****ty. Like it or not, the industry is a big part of the game.
Early Drake (before the fame)... The Drake from Myspace. That's the Drake I like. Don't get me wrong, I like this new Drake, too.
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LOL I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Drake fan, and 0 to 100 definitely had some hunger in it...Felt like listening to 2007/2008 Drake all over again!
