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View Poll Results: Are Canadian cities similar to American cities?
Yes, they are... 104 62.65%
No, they aren't... 62 37.35%
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:51 AM
 
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Yup, no two cities could be more similar than Montreal and Boston.

 
Old 06-23-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Tex?

"Canada was too cold to grow cash crops " Say what ?

I guess that the hundreds of thousands of famers from Europe, who emigrated to Canada, in the 19th century, were totally wrong about growing things in Canada ? They went to the west to grow wheat, and they were successful doing that. Some of their families are still farming, but the size of their operations is measured in the thousands of acres. In the west we refer to a "section of land " and that is 640 acres, a typical wheat operation in western Canada has a number of sections under cultivation.

Should I mention our fruit tree operations, which produce apples, pears, plums, peaches and our world famous vineyards, in both the Niagara, Ontario area, and the Kelona, British Columbia district. You can't grow grapes in the far north, in Canada, but down here in the sunny south we sure do.

We never grew cotton, but we did and still do grow tobacco , and peanuts, and the new cash crop in Canada, ginseng.

Jim B.

Toronto.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 07:49 AM
 
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Tex?

"Canada was too cold to grow cash crops " Say what ?

I guess that the hundreds of thousands of famers from Europe, who emigrated to Canada, in the 19th century, were totally wrong about growing things in Canada ? They went to the west to grow wheat, and they were successful doing that. Some of their families are still farming, but the size of their operations is measured in the thousands of acres. In the west we refer to a "section of land " and that is 640 acres, a typical wheat operation in western Canada has a number of sections under cultivation.

Should I mention our fruit tree operations, which produce apples, pears, plums, peaches and our world famous vineyards, in both the Niagara, Ontario area, and the Kelona, British Columbia district. You can't grow grapes in the far north, in Canada, but down here in the sunny south we sure do.

We never grew cotton, but we did and still do grow tobacco , and peanuts, and the new cash crop in Canada, ginseng.

Jim B.

Toronto.
I was SPECIFICALLY referring to african slave labor. It was in response to why American cities have more crime than Canadian cities today in modern times.

One has to be very careful when suggesting that a country or society has higher crime rates than another because of ethnic/racial demographics. If you immediately go to historical exploitation that forbade education historically to explain the situation, one can never be accused of being racist, but rather the opposite.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Your description of Boston is 40 years out-of-date.

Nowadays, "Dowachesta" is one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the nation.

Not only is Boston more diverse than Montreal, but it is also just as much a magnet for immigrants as Montreal if not moreso.
I was in Boston in fall 2011... It sure didn't seem that way to me... Boston IS one of the more interesting American towns in terms of culture, education and architecture, and it's downtown is in the top 5 for American cities imho... and the T is a great mass transit network... Downtown just totally empties out after 11-11:30p which is kinda weird.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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... btw, it's actually Daachesta. I was wrong.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Montreal is much more European in terms of its look, particularly Old Montreal, and its people: much more diverse, tolerant, worldly in outlook/culture and less-rude.
I love Montreal and all, but it's definitely NOT more diverse than any American metros its size or larger (it's about 70% white!!!), and I don't sense any more tolerance there than in any other major North American city.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Tex?

You do remember the "Underground railway, for escaping slaves, right ?

And guess where many of them ended up ? In Ontario, and in Nova Scotia.

During the US civil war, many blacks escaped to Canada. In Toronto in the 1890s there were black city councillors, and blacks became Medical Doctors and Lawyers, as well.

Here is a link to a site about a black man who made a success of his life in Canada, after arriving as a escaped slave. He was elected a number of times to the Toronto Board of Control, the precursor to the current City Council. He was also a business man, and a respected representative of a city ward that was almost 100 percent wealthy white people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Peyton_Hubbard

Canada as a part of the British Empire, outlawed slavery in 1834. There were not many slaves here, of any colour.

Jim B.

Toronto.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Tex?

You do remember the "Underground railway, for escaping slaves, right ?

And guess where many of them ended up ? In Ontario, and in Nova Scotia.

During the US civil war, many blacks escaped to Canada. In Toronto in the 1890s there were black city councillors, and blacks became Medical Doctors and Lawyers, as well.

Here is a link to a site about a black man who made a success of his life in Canada, after arriving as a escaped slave. He was elected a number of times to the Toronto Board of Control, the precursor to the current City Council. He was also a business man, and a respected representative of a city ward that was almost 100 percent wealthy white people.

William Peyton Hubbard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canada as a part of the British Empire, outlawed slavery in 1834. There were not many slaves here, of any colour.

Jim B.

Toronto.
Interesting. I guess it just proves my point further about the exploitation and oppression leading to crime down the road.

Makes me wonder if the US would have bee n better off in some ways if it were under the british laws for longer, as like canada, australia and NZ eventually got their infependence anyways.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Tex?

Actually, the prime mover for Canada to become an independent country, was the US Civil War.

With a standing army of more than a million men, the US, at the end of the Civil War, as a huge threat to Canada. Having all ready experienced invasion by American forces, twice in the past, in the 1770's at Quebec ( led by Benedict Arnold ) and again in 1812, we were facing a serious threat to our country.

Now for a part of US history that you probably don't know...............

The Fenian Brotherhood, was a large group( about 20,000 members ) that was made up of Irish American men, who had served in the Union Army, and who wanted to force Britain to give independence to Ireland. Their method to do that was to............Invade Canada.

For about 10 years, from 1866, to 1875, they attempted to invade what are now known as Ontario and Quebec. They were secretly funded by the US Government, and also sold arms by the US Government. As luck would have it, the Fenians were a bit too fond of the drink, and they were easy to infiltrate, with spies, paid by the Canadian Government, who reported all of their plans, well before the intended date of the attacks.

The Fenians were very strong in New York , Ohio and Illinois, and their main launching point was in Buffalo. On each attempt of invasion, Canadian and British forces met them and either captured and killed the majority of their force, or they were thrown back across the border, in confusion. Some of the captured Fenians were eventually sent to Australia, after trial for life sentences.

here is a link to history website about the Fenian Brotherhood and their attempts to invade Canada.

link Fenians - The Canadian Encyclopedia

A Toronto based Militia Battalion, the Queen's Own Rifles, took part in the defence of Ontario. They still exist as a part of the Canadian Forces Land Reserve , as a infantry unit in the Toronto Garrison. Their first battle honour, on their colours, is " The Fenian Raids ".

Link to the QORofC. The Rifleman Online - The QOR of C

It is not a co-incidence that Canada became a independent country in 1867, on July the first. Only about two years after the end of the US Civil War.

Jim B.

Toronto.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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Tex?

Actually, the prime mover for Canada to become an independent country, was the US Civil War.

With a standing army of more than a million men, the US, at the end of the Civil War, as a huge threat to Canada. Having all ready experienced invasion by American forces, twice in the past, in the 1770's at Quebec ( led by Benedict Arnold ) and again in 1812, we were facing a serious threat to our country.

Now for a part of US history that you probably don't know...............

The Fenian Brotherhood, was a large group( about 20,000 members ) that was made up of Irish American men, who had served in the Union Army, and who wanted to force Britain to give independence to Ireland. Their method to do that was to............Invade Canada.

For about 10 years, from 1866, to 1875, they attempted to invade what are now known as Ontario and Quebec. They were secretly funded by the US Government, and also sold arms by the US Government. As luck would have it, the Fenians were a bit too fond of the drink, and they were easy to infiltrate, with spies, paid by the Canadian Government, who reported all of their plans, well before the intended date of the attacks.

The Fenians were very strong in New York , Ohio and Illinois, and their main launching point was in Buffalo. On each attempt of invasion, Canadian and British forces met them and either captured and killed the majority of their force, or they were thrown back across the border, in confusion. Some of the captured Fenians were eventually sent to Australia, after trial for life sentences.

here is a link to history website about the Fenian Brotherhood and their attempts to invade Canada.

link Fenians - The Canadian Encyclopedia

A Toronto based Militia Battalion, the Queen's Own Rifles, took part in the defence of Ontario. They still exist as a part of the Canadian Forces Land Reserve , as a infantry unit in the Toronto Garrison. Their first battle honour, on their colours, is " The Fenian Raids ".

Link to the QORofC. The Rifleman Online - The QOR of C

It is not a co-incidence that Canada became a independent country in 1867, on July the first. Only about two years after the end of the US Civil War.

Jim B.

Toronto.
Thanks for the history lesson. I had no idea.
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