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Pittsburgh may have a stunning landscape. But what difference does it make wen the mills and the factories are spewing filth into the air and into the rivers tarnishing this landscape that you can't see through the smog. I know this for a fact because I saw photos in an old textbook where streetlights were turned on at noon.
Precisely, an OLD photo. It is extremely clean now and has been for decades.
Pittsburgh= Stunning landscape, very green, very hilly to mountainous, with 3 rivers converging downtown. Incredible OLD world diversity, very urban. Very ethnic neighborhoods with flava.
Charlotte=Green, very forested, Not urban, suburban, no true diversity,very spread out and sparse.
Denver=Mostly barren and flat until you get to the extreme western suburbs. Semi urban. Semi diversity.
Take your pick.
You're not even close on comparing how diverse these cities are....
Based on the census data Pittsburgh is the least diverse and most whitest (by over 10%) of the three although the diversity ratios are pretty close between Charlotte and Denver with the most noticeable difference being inverse relationships between each city's AA and Hispanic population.
Denver has a reputation as a "white bread" city, but really, it is more diverse than Pittsburgh, and its suburbs are also fairly diverse, which is not the case in Pittsburgh, except for, I believe, Penn Hills.
Denver has a reputation as a "white bread" city, but really, it is more diverse than Pittsburgh, and its suburbs are also fairly diverse, which is not the case in Pittsburgh, except for, I believe, Penn Hills.
When I lived out there in Aurora I never thought of Denver as being a white bread town. I know Colorado had one of the highest populations of Mexicans since the 80's and that was an achievement because it isn't a border state like the others such as Texas and California. Obviously coming from north Aurora and living across the street from Denver city limits made me well aware of the diversity.
I believe your point is that nationally speaking most people have a perception that Denver is mostly white. This would be like the perceptions of Minneapolis & St. Paul when in reality they are also more diverse than Pittsburgh when verifying through the Census.
When I lived out there in Aurora I never thought of Denver as being a white bread town. I know Colorado had one of the highest populations of Mexicans since the 80's and that was an achievement because it isn't a border state like the others such as Texas and California. Obviously coming from north Aurora and living across the street from Denver city limits made me well aware of the diversity.
I believe your point is that nationally speaking most people have a perception that Denver is mostly white. This would be like the perceptions of Minneapolis & St. Paul when in reality they are also more diverse than Pittsburgh when verifying through the Census.
Yes, Aurora is very diverse. Probably more diverse than Denver, really.
Denver has a reputation as a "white bread" city, but really, it is more diverse than Pittsburgh, and its suburbs are also fairly diverse, which is not the case in Pittsburgh, except for, I believe, Penn Hills.
Monroeville is Pittsburgh's most diverse suburb. It's 79% white, 12% black, 6% Asian, 2% multiracial and 1% Hispanic, per the 2010 Census. Conversely, Penn Hills is 61% white, 35% black, 1% Asian, 3% multiracial and 1% Hispanic.
Other Pittsburgh suburbs that are at least 10% black include Wilkinsburg (67%), East Pittsburgh (45%), North Braddock (45%), Swissvale (35%), Mount Oliver (33%), Braddock Hills (28%), Wilmerding (18%), Turtle Creek (17%), Churchill (14%), North Versailles (14%), Whitaker (12%), Wilkins Township (12%) and West Mifflin (11%). This does not include former factory towns, or any municipalities outside of Allegheny County.
Other Pittsburgh suburbs that are at least 5% Asian include Scott Township (11%), Franklin Park (10%), Marshall Township (7%), Fox Chapel (6%), Upper St. Clair (6%), Indiana Township (6%), Aspinwall (5%), McCandless (5%), O'Hara Township (5%) and South Fayette Township (5%). The closest any municipality outside of Allegheny County would qualify for this threshold would be Murrysville (4%) in Westmoreland County.
The increasing diversity in Allegheny County gets washed out in the metropolitan data by the six outlying counties, five of which are over 90% white.
Denver is a separate county. Cities in bold are close-in suburbs.
Here is the breakdown by suburban county:
Adams (469,193, includes farmland/rural communties on the eastern plains)
NHW: 52.4%
Hispanic: 38.6%
Arapahoe (607,070, includes farmland/rural communities on the eastern plains)
NHW: 62.7%
Hispanic: 18.6%
African American: 10.8%
Asian 5.5%
Boulder (310,048, includes mountain land including a portion of Rocky Mountain National Park and several mountain communities)
NHW: 78.6%
Hispanic: 13.7%
(Asian 4.4%)
Broomfield: is a city-county, numbers above
Douglas (305,963, includes some mountain land and open range land)
NHW: 84.3%
Hispanic: 8.1%
(Asian 4.1%)
Jefferson (551,798, includes some mountain area and some mountain communities)
NHW: 79.1%
Hispanic: 15.0%
Allegheny County, PA minus Pittsburgh is 85.4% white, 9% African-American, and 4.9% other. (Numbers rounded)
Suburban Denver is less white and more diverse than Allegheny County outside of Pittsburgh, and that includes the three counties that do not have a contiguous border with Denver, e.g. Boulder, Broomfield and Douglas counties.
Last edited by Katarina Witt; 08-31-2014 at 08:57 PM..
alot of ignorance about Charlotte and diversity in this thread Charlotte is very diverse I believe its a minority majority city.
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