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Are you serious? I pulled up urban area and MSA numbers. Sounds like that "Tampa Bay area" includes counties that aren't a part of the urban area or MSA numbers. For example, Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice has its own urban area and MSA.
Venice is Charlotte cty. People here don't consider it part of Tampa Bay, though I know people who commute to Tampa for work.
Greater TB is 7 counties. See below and stop disputing this fact.
I don't know what to make of "Current wait 40 minutes, User Reported 1 hour 13 mins", so at 10 am Pacific time, just the border crossing takes about the same time it takes you to drive from Tampa to Orlando. That doesn't take into account it's still about a 20 minute drive from San Ysidro to downtown San Diego, and 40+ minutes to North County. So the current travel time at 10am Thursday is longer than Tampa to Orlando.
I'm talking about AVERAGE and I'm referring to commuters during commute times. 10am isn't considered a typical commute time.
Since you want to throw North County in there, Bradenton to Orlando is about 2 hours.
Well at it's worst during commute hours its 61 min on Monday morning. But like I already said, those that have a Sentri pass can get through on average in just 20 minutes. Either way, your 2 hours was way off.
At it's worst on average for commute times, it's about the same as Tampa to Orlando and that's just for people without a Sentri pass.
Well at it's worst during commute hours its 61 min on Monday morning. But like I already said, those that have a Sentri pass can get through on average in just 20 minutes. Either way, your 2 hours was way off.
I don't buy those figures. Just like now: average wait is 40 minutes, user reported is 73 minutes. That's a difference of almost 83%. I don't trust the border patrol to report accurately for obvious reasons.
And on top of that, it doesn't mesh with my experience 6 years ago when I did that border crossing several times a week for months at a time.
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At it's worst on average for commute times, it's about the same as Tampa to Orlando and that's just for people without a Sentri pass.
Right now, from dt San Diego to dt Tijuana you're looking at almost 2 hours, that's 30 minutes worse than Tampa to Orlando. At rush-hour, the drive times from San Ysidro to dt San Diego will be at least 30 minutes, if not 40 minutes, not to mention the border crossing should be worse as well.
I don't buy those figures. Just like now: average wait is 40 minutes, user reported is 73 minutes. That's a difference of almost 83%. I don't trust the border patrol to report accurately for obvious reasons.
And on top of that, it doesn't mesh with my experience 6 years ago when I did that border crossing several times a week for months at a time.
Right now, from dt San Diego to dt Tijuana you're looking at almost 2 hours, that's 30 minutes worse than Tampa to Orlando. At rush-hour, the drive times from San Ysidro to dt San Diego will be at least 30 minutes, if not 40 minutes, not to mention the border crossing should be worse as well.
So you don't trust actual data but just some random "user"? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Like I already said, they've made improvements to speed up border wait times. Your experience 6 years ago is exactly that, experience 6 YEARS ago.
Not sure how 90 minutes to get to DT SD is the same as almost two hours and that is only if you're going by some random anonymous "user".
For the third time, if you cross the border regularly you can apply for a Sentri pass which cuts down your wait time dramatically. So for those that choose that, they can be in Downtown SD in no more than an hour max on average during weekday commute hours.
Believe what you tell yourself but I actually provided data showing what the average wait times were at all hours of the day every day.
Is this the US Census definition of Tampa Bay? They're stretching the definition of Tampa from Homosassa Springs to Northport, which is 150 miles. I have a hard time believing that the commuting patterns in that 150-mile stretch are cohesive enough for it to be a metro.
The website even says that the area "includes...the metro areas of Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Northport-Sarasota-Bradenton, Lakeland-Winter Haven, and Homosassa Springs." Which means the Tampa Bay metro plus the 3 other metros totals a population of 4.4 million, not just Tampa.
The Wikipedia article shows that the metro population was 2.7 million in 2010. Don't see how it jumped 1.6 million in 4 years.
There aren't even any beaches directly in Tampa, which already disqualifies it from having a San Diego vibe.
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