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View Poll Results: Where would you rather live?
Phoenix 99 67.81%
Albuquerque 47 32.19%
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-15-2021, 05:33 PM
 
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Albuquerque doesn't seem to be in too bad a shape though.
Its definitely more stable. Phoenix is a classic sunbelt city ABQ is a bit more unique, maybe a little more artsy. The real estate in ABQ is very quirky.

Also Albuquerque homes have real xeriscaping. Phoenix is just bare gravel mostly with lots of cinder block privacy walls.

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Old 02-15-2021, 07:05 PM
 
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at least 5 generations New Mexican here. I left. Albuquerque has gone waaay downhill.
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Old 02-15-2021, 07:10 PM
 
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You are crazy if you think Abq is safer than phx. First off look at the crime ratings, the state don't lie. Second 3/4ths of the people in the phx metro live in the super safe suburbs. While 3/4ths of the People in the Abq metro live in ghetto Abq. The south valley and wars one in Abq is by far worse than anything in the entire phx metro!
THIS THIS & THIS

Be rich in Albuquerque or beware.
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Old 02-15-2021, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Albuquerque has never been doing better than right now.

It has one of the top real estate markets in the country in a time that real estate is hot across the country. Last year we had the most new homes built since before the Great Recession. The apartment market is going gangbusters here with thousands and thousands of units being built and in the pipeline. National apartment investors are beginning to take notice and invest here because of our great stats for occupancy and rent growth.

https://www.krqe.com/news/business/a...op-95-of-2020/

https://www.bizjournals.com/albuquer...e-in-2020.html

https://www.abqjournal.com/1424590/s...q-in-2020.html

Over 17,000 new jobs have been created or announced in the last three years. Half of those jobs are in tech, including the massive expansion at Sandia National Labs, a major expansion at Intel and the exciting new Orion Center project. Those go along with countless local success stories and expansions like RS21 and Array Technologies. The entertainment industry is going gangbusters here with over $3 billion in investment and thousands of jobs coming from Netflix and NBCUniversal alone. Facebook is in the middle of building a $1.5 billion data center here that will create 350 high-paying permanent jobs. Amazon is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to build several massive facilities here that will provide thousands of good-paying jobs on the lower end of the scale.

https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news...-goal/5602065/

https://www.krqe.com/job-resources/o...r-albuquerque/

https://www.koat.com/article/faceboo...lunas/35354574

https://www.bizjournals.com/albuquer...1000-jobs.html

https://vimeopro.com/dronebros/const...ideo/512302311

https://vimeopro.com/dronebros/const...ideo/509616153

Albuquerque's median income grew by an incredible 12.39 percent from 2018 to 2019, the most recent numbers available.

https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...o/albuquerque/

At the same time, Albuquerque's poverty rate has gone down to the lowest level it's been since at least the year 2000.

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...nm-metro-area/

Our cultural output and local ingenuity has never been higher. We have so many unique and awesome new establishments, businesses and events that continue expanding and popping up even during the pandemic. Things like new restaurants, artisan bakeries, donut shops, microbreweries, craft distilleries, food halls, retail collectives, festivals, art events, galleries, public art, murals, cultural centers, museums, revamped historic spaces like the El Vado, De Anza, Rail Yards, etc.

https://www.foodandwine.com/travel/r...et-albuquerque

https://www.505central.com/

https://www.tincanalleyabq.com/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenba...h-18m-upgrade/

Every major civic amenity has been or will be revamped or renovated in Albuquerque. Everything from the Convention Center to the Bio Park to the Main Library to the Sunport. Hundreds of millions of dollars has been spent in the last few years on improving these assets. Lots more exciting and transformative things are happening, planned and on the horizon in Albuquerque. A new tallest building, a downtown performing arts center, a downtown soccer stadium, etc.

https://www.constructionreporter.com...tadium-project

I've lived in Albuquerque for 40 years and the city has never been better than it is right now!
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Old 02-16-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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Its definitely more stable. Phoenix is a classic sunbelt city ABQ is a bit more unique, maybe a little more artsy. The real estate in ABQ is very quirky.

Also Albuquerque homes have real xeriscaping. Phoenix is just bare gravel mostly with lots of cinder block privacy walls.
What are you talking about?

Here is a classic newer Phoenix neighborhood, it's not just bare gravel.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6747...7i13312!8i6656

And a classic older neighborhood in central Phoenix.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5410...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 02-16-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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Snow or non snow is not really the issue. There are 4-seasons places that don't get much snow, just some cooler weather 6-8 months a year.
Albuquerque only averages about 10 inches of snow a year, about the same as many places in the southeast, but with a dryer climate overall.
There's warm climates then there's hot climates. Not all (somewhat) warm climates get a lot of snow in typical years.
I like Phoenix though and might could live there if the circumstances were right, but wouldn't spend much time outside in the summers.

I feel like the Phoenix summers get over-sensationalized on this CD. I relocated here 20-years ago from a climate similar to ABQ and don't really find it that hard to adapt to. My winters up North slowed down on outdoor activities more than they do here in the summer. I still go hiking, go on bike rides, etc... I just do so early in the morning before the heat kicks in. Pools and lakes are great, the high country and beaches aren't that far away... The worst of the heat is about 12 weeks, last year was longer.
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Old 02-16-2021, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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I feel like the Phoenix summers get over-sensationalized on this CD. I relocated here 20-years ago from a climate similar to ABQ and don't really find it that hard to adapt to. My winters up North slowed down on outdoor activities more than they do here in the summer. I still go hiking, go on bike rides, etc... I just do so early in the morning before the heat kicks in. Pools and lakes are great, the high country and beaches aren't that far away... The worst of the heat is about 12 weeks, last year was longer.
I would say that's true, but it would be a tie with "Phoenix is running out of water". If posters (many of whom have never stepped foot in Phoenix or outside of our airports) ever took the time to read up before commenting, they would actually learn more about the area than they claim to know, be smarter and wiser as a result, and be taken more seriously.
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Old 02-16-2021, 09:52 AM
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I’ve been to Phoenix, don’t worry.
Even in the dry heat, the 80’s is my limit for outdoor activities beyond sitting on a shaded porch.
Having to cram them in during the mornings or late evenings isn’t exactly a selling point. It’s almost as bad as southerners saying wait till the afternoon thundershowers... like I’m going for a bike ride in the rain.

I’ll take Phoenix over Houston or Atlanta any day if it helps.
Where currently live, summers are generally in the 70’s. Hot is the 80’s. 90’s happen once in a while. 100’s once in a generation.
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Old 02-16-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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I’ve been to Phoenix, don’t worry.
Even in the dry heat, the 80’s is my limit for outdoor activities beyond sitting on a shaded porch.
Having to cram them in during the mornings or late evenings isn’t exactly a selling point. It’s almost as bad as southerners saying wait till the afternoon thundershowers... like I’m going for a bike ride in the rain.

I’ll take Phoenix over Houston or Atlanta any day if it helps.
Where currently live, summers are generally in the 70’s. Hot is the 80’s. 90’s happen once in a while. 100’s once in a generation.
You don't have to cram in outdoor activities to morning hours year-round, it's just during the summer months, our high today is 70. I'm talking about roughly the 12 week period from June-September. What do you do for outdoor activities in the winter where you live? When I lived in the Northeast my outdoor activities we're far more hampered in the winter than they are in the summer here.

Do you not going swimming when it's over the 80s? That's almost the only time I swim, if it's not at least 90 I'm not going to be in the pool, river or lake...

If you don't like warm/hot weather then Phoenix isn't for you, I don't ever disagree with that. My gut tells me I'd be uncomfortable where you live on summer evenings if the highs are only in the 70s. It's just a different way of life, but if you like dry/warm weather and want to live in a big city, Phoenix and Vegas are really the only options. The weather you're describing is about anywhere in the Northwest and Upper Midwest.
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Old 02-16-2021, 10:40 AM
 
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I’ll take Phoenix over Houston or Atlanta any day if it helps.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure sitting on one's porch or timing bicycle rides is not the priority to most Americans (or companies) on where they move.
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