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For me Portland for outdoor recreation, local beer, and culinary innovation and Dallas for everything else.
As a city, I don’t care for Portland. It’s filthy as hell, is very short on diversity, it caught up in its own stereotype, and feels very inauthentic. Dallas too for that last one but it’s better on the others.
Your big cities in the Midwest and North East ARE more segregated than your big cities down South. I am not saying that every city in the South is fully integrated, just that the region is more integrated than the Midwest.
This appears to be true based on the "entropy index" shown in this study.
If you look at cities in the midwest vs. south, the green/diversity is much more apparent in the south. The rural south is also exceptionally more diverse than the rural midwest. It's also interesting how much more diverse southern cities' suburbs are.
Neither compare to California cities though. You'd be hard pressed to find any places in the bay area that are not diverse.
Most people move to Dallas for those two reasons though, plus it is a pro-business, low tax area compared to coastal metros. But as the area becomes more expensive due to the housing demands, that appeal will definitely reduce. The diverse economy of the area helps, but if the salaries don't catch up with the housing costs, then there won't be as much incentive to move there.
Let me guess, you moved to Dallas for its beautiful natural scenery, plethora of outdoor activities, and its urbanity? LMAO, please
The density is increasing. There is no denying that. But the urbanity still needs work in Texas cities. I absolutely do not care for the amount of above ground parking garages going up with every development in Houston. It takes up way to much valuable space.
I mean......people need somewhere to park their cars.
If you look at cities in the midwest vs. south, the green/diversity is much more apparent in the south. The rural south is also exceptionally more diverse than the rural midwest. It's also interesting how much more diverse southern cities' suburbs are.
Neither compare to California cities though. You'd be hard pressed to find any places in the bay area that are not diverse.
The Bay Area has a tiny black population which, in my opinion, keeps it from being equal to NYC, LA, and arguably DC on diversity.
The Bay Area has a tiny black population which, in my opinion, keeps it from being equal to NYC, LA, and arguably DC on diversity.
I get what you mean compared to LA and NYC.
The bay area is definitely more diverse than DC metro. For one thing, it's majority (54%) white. 80% of people are either black or white. Plus the DC black population is highly segregated from everyone else. So no, I don't think DC gets points for being diverse when all black people are in one area only.
The bay area is minority majority. 42% white, 23% hispanic, 23% asian, and 7-8% black. DC's asian population is only 9%, so I'm not sure why SF's 7-8% black population is the reason it's less diverse.
The bay area is definitely more diverse than DC metro. For one thing, it's majority (54%) white. 80% of people are either black or white. Plus the DC black population is highly segregated from everyone else. So no, I don't think DC gets points for being diverse when all black people are in one area only.
The bay area is minority majority. 42% white, 23% hispanic, 23% asian, and 7-8% black. DC's asian population is only 9%, so I'm not sure why SF's 7-8% black population is the reason it's less diverse.
Respectfully, youre information on DC is extremely inaccurate. Below is information for both by metro area:
Washington DC:
45.8% White
24.9% Black
15.5% Hispanic
10.0% Asian
San Francisco:
40.0% White
25.6% Asian
21.9% Hispanic
7.0% Black
In fact, DC is the only other metro area in the US (other than NYC and LA) that has at least 10% of every group. Then if we dig deeper, you can see that DC's black population is not just African American. It rivals NYC as the number one spot for foreign born Africans. The San Francisco Bay Area has almost no foreign born Africans to speak of. DC's Hispanic population is smaller than the Bay Area, but its also way more diverse with a much larger Central and South American population than the Bay Area. The Bay Area just has way more Mexicans.
I would also draw your attention to this thread which breaks everything down by country and MSA:
Respectfully, youre information on DC is extremely inaccurate. Below is information for both by metro area:
Washington DC:
45.8% White
24.9% Black
15.5% Hispanic
10.0% Asian
San Francisco:
40.0% White
25.6% Asian
21.9% Hispanic
7.0% Black
In fact, DC is the only other metro area in the US (other than NYC and LA) that has at least 10% of every group. Then if we dig deeper, you can see that DC's black population is not just African American. It rivals NYC as the number one spot for foreign born Africans. The San Francisco Bay Area has almost no foreign born Africans to speak of. DC's Hispanic population is smaller than the Bay Area, but its also way more diverse with a much larger Central and South American population than the Bay Area. The Bay Area just has way more Mexicans.
I would also draw your attention to this thread which breaks everything down by country and MSA:
So at worst, DC is at least as diverse as the Bay Area.
Uh why are we comparing D.C to the Bay area in a thread intended to compare Dallas and Portland? C'mon now.
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