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LA 66 43.71%
Pittsburgh 82 54.30%
Tie 3 1.99%
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:43 PM
 
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Ummm
Whut?

Most of nyc metro isnt as dense as la metro....
Well, NYC alone is denser than anything LA metro has. If you mean NYC suburbs sure, LA city and LA metro suburbs has a higher overall density. But the NYC suburbs does have some extremes that can match what you guys have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density

This list has the highest density areas in US. It is only counting all places with 10K/sqmi persons.

If you check this list, as far as incorporated areas NYC suburbs in NNJ, occupies 7 of the top 10 spots. If you scroll down lower you will see NYC metro has 55 places with +10K/sqmi persons.

But overall LA metro seems to keep a relative density throughout, and NYC metro has areas that really spread itself out.

But I guess to travelers naked eye, when they come to NYC metro, they see NYC, then maybe some of our densest suburbs. When they come to LA to compare, that is what they go by. So they feel LA is very suburban.
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:04 AM
 
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I said "most".
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:07 AM
 
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Well, NYC alone is denser than anything LA metro has. If you mean NYC suburbs sure, LA city and LA metro suburbs has a higher overall density. But the NYC suburbs does have some extremes that can match what you guys have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density

This list has the highest density areas in US. It is only counting all places with 10K/sqmi persons.

If you check this list, as far as incorporated areas NYC suburbs in NNJ, occupies 7 of the top 10 spots. If you scroll down lower you will see NYC metro has 55 places with +10K/sqmi persons.

But overall LA metro seems to keep a relative density throughout, and NYC metro has areas that really spread itself out.

But I guess to travelers naked eye, when they come to NYC metro, they see NYC, then maybe some of our densest suburbs. When they come to LA to compare, that is what they go by. So they feel LA is very suburban.
The nyx area has smaller suburbs than la
Most la suburbs are huge in population, so its not a fair comparison there.
Most of long beach is likely over 10,000 psm.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:03 AM
 
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I think of urban as being designed for the pedestrian. Buildings built right up to the sidewalk with no set-backs. Pittsburgh fits more of that definition than LA.
Right like a tiny portion of that city? LA has huge swaths that's right up to the sidewalk urbanity for miles and miles...i just can't see blotches of land looking like the south being more urban
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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This place is pretty close to Downtown LA and looks like suburbs to me

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lo...4d-118.2436849

This is literally RIGHT next to Downtown Pittsburgh.... looks like rural, middle-of-nowhere Utah to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4471...7i13312!8i6656

See why you can't trust just posting Google Maps links?

I think overall LA does FEEL more urban... if you're there walking around that is. Downtown and the surrounding areas, plus Hollywood/West Hollywood, The Wilshire Corridor, Santa Monica, Venice Beach, etc... they FEEL more major city than most of Pittsburgh.

I can see how the overall look and old-school build of Pittsburgh may look more urban in spots, but I actually think Pittsburgh's most urban nodes of Downtown and Oakland, Southside and Northside are more disconnected than LA's most urban nodes.

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Old 11-09-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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This is literally RIGHT next to Downtown Pittsburgh.... looks like rural, middle-of-nowhere Utah to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4471...7i13312!8i6656
That's a historically black neighborhood which had considerable urban decay. If you go back 60 years it was densely filled with rowhouses. It's being filled back in again closer to town.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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This is literally RIGHT next to Downtown Pittsburgh.... looks like rural, middle-of-nowhere Utah to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4471...7i13312!8i6656
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That's a historically black neighborhood which had considerable urban decay. If you go back 60 years it was densely filled with rowhouses. It's being filled back in again closer to town.
That is one of the most depressed areas in Pittsburgh. The lower hill district was built pre 1900, and actually had population densities above 100,000 ppsm during the 50s, but urban renewal in the 60s completely destroyed that neighborhood. However,with the BIG development, the area is beginning to recover.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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That's a historically black neighborhood which had considerable urban decay. If you go back 60 years it was densely filled with rowhouses. It's being filled back in again closer to town.
I know, I was kidding . Reread my post after I edited it.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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This is literally RIGHT next to Downtown Pittsburgh.... looks like rural, middle-of-nowhere Utah to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4471...7i13312!8i6656

See why you can't trust just posting Google Maps links?

I think overall LA does FEEL more urban... if you're there walking around that is. Downtown and the surrounding areas, plus Hollywood/West Hollywood, The Wilshire Corridor, Santa Monica, Venice Beach, etc... they FEEL more major city than most of Pittsburgh.

I can see how the overall look and old-school build of Pittsburgh may look more urban in spots, but I actually think Pittsburgh's most urban nodes of Downtown and Oakland, Southside and Northside are more disconnected than LA's most urban nodes.

La neighborhoods in general really pack in alot of storefronts it feels like youre in a massive city.
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