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Old 03-01-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, have walkable blocks around Deep Ellum, Uptown, Midtown, Rice, but on the whole are exceptionally low energy given their metro size. The "I can't believe this is it" feeling hits me w/DT Atlanta, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, (Uptown) Charlotte" every time I'm in one of those places in spite of recent improvements.
That's because downtown isn't really the center of vibrancy in Atlanta, although it's the most classically urban part of the city. But once it truly takes off, it will be something special.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Baltimore
Baltimore has a good DT by 1970s standards. A walkable corridor for about 3/4 mile along Pratt between Camden Yards, the Inner Harbor, and Fells Point. But then it falls off dramatically because very bad neighborhoods are just a couple blocks away throughout this area. As a 2010s DT, doesn't compare to Seattle, Portland, or Philly.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: The City
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Baltimore has to be in the running, potentially till ahead of Seattle on some aspects
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:00 AM
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Location: Miami
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Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, have walkable blocks around Deep Ellum, Uptown, Midtown, Rice, but on the whole are exceptionally low energy given their metro size. The "I can't believe this is it" feeling hits me w/DT Atlanta, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, (Uptown) Charlotte" every time I'm in one of those places in spite of recent improvements.
This is one of the problems I have with those cities in terms of walkability, it's not consistent.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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This is one of the problems I have with those cities in terms of walkability, it's not consistent.
Same goes for denser polycentric metros like Miami and LA, at least in terms of places to actually walk to/through.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Baltimore has to be in the running, potentially till ahead of Seattle on some aspects
Eh.. the main thing going against Seattle in terms of walkability is the hilly streets (which really aren't that bad)
However, in terms of vibrancy (weekend and workday) Seattle and Baltimore really don't even compare.
I've spent time in both downtowns and Seattle feels significantly more bustling and energized.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The City
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Eh.. the main thing going against Seattle in terms of walkability is the hilly streets (which really aren't that bad)
However, in terms of vibrancy (weekend and workday) Seattle and Baltimore really don't even compare.
I've spent time in both downtowns and Seattle feels significantly more bustling and energized.
at peak yes, though Baltimore maintains better walkability moving away the direct core


in the core DT Seattle feels more vibrant today agree but doesn't flow into the next sets of neighborhoods as cohesively




seeing you are from D Baltimore and SD in the DT have a similar vibe/activity level to them and both associate with their waterfronts similarly if that makes sense the Gaslamp is probably more active in times of big conferences as a singular area but in their core DT I think Baltimore and SD have some similarities albeit different constructs
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I've spent time in both downtowns and Seattle feels significantly more bustling and energized.
My experience with Baltimore is limited, but it's not a Downtown focused city. Downtown Baltimore wasn't as horrendously urban renewed as some cities, but there's limited commercial activity except in the area right around the Inner Harbor. Not much residential development either. The decision to turn virtually every street in downtown into a wide one-way road also means cars speed through very fast. If you don't spend time in outlying neighborhoods like Fells Point, Federal Hill, or Mt. Vernon, you're not getting the full experience.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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My experience with Baltimore is limited, but it's not a Downtown focused city. Downtown Baltimore wasn't as horrendously urban renewed as some cities, but there's limited commercial activity except in the area right around the Inner Harbor. Not much residential development either. The decision to turn virtually every street in downtown into a wide one-way road also means cars speed through very fast. If you don't spend time in outlying neighborhoods like Fells Point, Federal Hill, or Mt. Vernon, you're not getting the full experience.
Downtown Baltimore is currently adding residential developments at probably the highest clip ever. Not only that, but downtown is also gonna a add more in terms of retail. I'll provide numbers when I find them, but the best estimates are just under 4,000 unit under construction downtown.
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Old 03-01-2017, 04:23 PM
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Location: Miami
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Same goes for denser polycentric metros like Miami and LA, at least in terms of places to actually walk to/through.
Miami has walkable neighborhoods to the North and West of Downtown, both connecting. Same with LA, there's consistency throughout the core area.
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