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Old 01-16-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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South is on ice! 24 degrees in Houston in the afternoon is a disgrace for this sunbelt city. LA will never see the daylight of this kind of cold weather despite being so far north in the latitude from Houston.
The US isn't a very good country if you are looking for productive QOL climates. Just too extreme:

The entire East is mired by cold waves like the one affecting Houston currently: much colder temps than should happen for the latitude. Even in South Florida, the temperatures, while still remaining in mild/warm levels, still get colder than what they should be for the latitude.

The West is mostly high in elevation, reducing mild winter climates to small slivers of lowland (SoCal, lower Arizona). The same pattern that brings deep cold to the South is the one that brings excessive drought to the West: SoCal is much more drought prone than most Med climates around the world.

Hopefully, this dipole pattern is just a temporary effect of global warming, that will then lead to a full blown warm up for the entire country. The US will then become more habitable.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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The entire East is mired by cold waves like the one affecting Houston currently: much colder temps than should happen for the latitude. Even in South Florida, the temperatures, while still remaining in mild/warm levels, still get colder than what they should be for the latitude.
Yes, but Houston is taking it unnecessarily harsh. As of 12:31pm (UTC - 5), Houston has a forecast of 27/19 F for Tuesday. I'm even speechless as I would have assumed that'd be impossible. Looking at neighboring New Orleans, and the same forecast gives 43/21. Cold yes, but noticeably warmer than Houston and it's only 5 hours away by drive. Miami is 76/45 and then 64/54 the next day before it's back into the 70s. Jacksonville, FL which is north of Houston has a forecast of 52/26 and then 49/30 before it returns back to the 50s.

It's quite strange but Houston and Texas in general must be getting walloped. Austin is 28/18, and Brownsville (same latitude as Miami) is snowing at 37/30. Remarkable.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:11 PM
 
Location: New York Metropolitan Area
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Los Angeles - besides the fire situations, nearly perfect weather year-round IMO.
Miami - can get hot/hurricanes, but winters are a breeze and I don't mind humidity and rain so..
Houston
Dallas
Atlanta
Washington
SF
Philly/NY
Boston
Chicago/Detroit - Chicago is a GREAT city though so it makes up for it, and would like to visit Detroit someday
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Green Country
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My ranking would be:


1. LA
2. SF
3. Atlanta
4. Miami
5. Dallas
6. Houston
7. NYC
8. DC
9. Philly
10. Boston
11. Chicago
12. Detroit
What makes NYC's climate better than DC or Philly?
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What makes NYC's climate better than DC or Philly?
There's little difference I suppose but I've gone through summers in DC and the humidity was terrible and I suspect NYC wouldn't be quite so oppressive in the summer than DC or Philly. Admittedly these 3 or so close that you can mix and match them without a huge difference. LA & SF are by far the best climates on this list IMO, the rest are a coin toss.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:27 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Yes, but Houston is taking it unnecessarily harsh. As of 12:31pm (UTC - 5), Houston has a forecast of 27/19 F for Tuesday. I'm even speechless as I would have assumed that'd be impossible. Looking at neighboring New Orleans, and the same forecast gives 43/21. Cold yes, but noticeably warmer than Houston and it's only 5 hours away by drive.
That's just the timing difference regarding the frontal passage, given the west-to-east motion. All that happened was that the front crossed Houston during the early morning hours before sunrise, whereas it reached New Orleans later during the afternoon. This means that the high temperature for Houston on 1/16 occurred during the early morning hours (it was low 40s/upper 30s), with temps dropping during the day to 27F, while New Orleans had a chance to maintain some prefrontal "warmth" during the day at 43F before getting hit. The Weather Channel forecasts that you show only use afternoon temps for highs, so they won't capture this full picture.

The front has cleared New Orleans now, and they are now at 26F with snowfall on the ground. It remains to be seen whether the low temperatures will materialize.

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Miami is 76/45 and then 64/54 the next day before it's back into the 70s. Jacksonville, FL which is north of Houston has a forecast of 52/26 and then 49/30 before it returns back to the 50s.

It's quite strange but Houston and Texas in general must be getting walloped. Austin is 28/18, and Brownsville (same latitude as Miami) is snowing at 37/30. Remarkable.
On the other hand, Jacksonville is closer to the coast than Houston, but averages much more lows with temps freezing. Check up the NWS stats.

Different fronts have different trajectories, leading to different effects. In this case, the front dived in a way that brought moisture stream into Texas, creating the cloud-cover that would hold temperatures. The low-pressure system controlling the moisture probably wraps up, and takes a turn, so that Jacksonville just receives the cold front, without the moisture in place to create cloud/winter precip (thus having sun for daytime heating).

But just as there instances with Texas taking the hit, there are instances where places farther east get the hit. For instance, winter 2011-2012, there was a cold spell that gave Miami cold, while Brownsville stayed warmer. Winter 2015-2016, Jacksonville had numerous nights in the 20s (even more than Austin did), while Houston never even reached freezing that season.

Of course peninsular Florida has water moderation to dissuade their cold spells, that's a given. But nevertheless, all the east is fair game for cold deviations below their averages, relative to their latitude and elevation: each cold snap has different trajectories, but the point stands regardless.

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Old 01-17-2018, 12:47 AM
 
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There's little difference I suppose but I've gone through summers in DC and the humidity was terrible and I suspect NYC wouldn't be quite so oppressive in the summer than DC or Philly. Admittedly these 3 or so close that you can mix and match them without a huge difference. LA & SF are by far the best climates on this list IMO, the rest are a coin toss.
No, no: LA, by far, has the best weather in the country. SF is basically like late fall year round: only in the 50's most of the time.

The weather association said Oakland and Redwood City have the best weather in the world: mild winters and slightly warm summers.

To me: Honolulu and then LA have the best clime in the country. After that, San Diego.

World wide best climate cities: Launda, Angola and Las Pumas, Canary Island
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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No, no: LA, by far, has the best weather in the country. SF is basically like late fall year round: only in the 50's most of the time.

The weather association said Oakland and Redwood City have the best weather in the world: mild winters and slightly warm summers.

To me: Honolulu and then LA have the best clime in the country. After that, San Diego.

World wide best climate cities: Launda, Angola and Las Pumas, Canary Island
I agree with you but I was referring only to the list the OP made. Best worldwide climate for me is Arequipa, Peru.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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L.A
Miami
San Francisco
Atlanta
Dallas
D.C
Philadelphia
NYC
Chicago
Boston
Detroit
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:59 AM
 
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Los Angeles - besides the fire situations, nearly perfect weather year-round IMO.
You forgot landslides, floods and earthquakes all of which can be a worse impact than the fires. I’m good in AZ, pretty much disaster free and you can still afford to put a roof over your head.
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