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Too funny! Whistler has 12,000 people, about the size of Steamboat Springs!
Whistler isn't a self-sufficient city on its own, it's a world-renowned tourist destination and luxury ski-resort that (wealthy) people fly to in massive droves, and that's why proximity to it is a plus. I'd wager it's a lot more significant and attractive to a wider audience than Steamboat Springs but YMMV.
Whistler isn't a self-sufficient city on its own, it's a world-renowned tourist destination and luxury ski-resort that (wealthy) people fly to in massive droves, and that's why proximity to it is a plus. I'd wager it's a lot more significant and attractive to a wider audience than Steamboat Springs but YMMV.
Whistler isn't all that close to Seattle, but it is very close to Vancouver. In fact, maybe I could be educated, but the nearest ski area would be a place like Snoqualmie.
How connected are Seattle and Vancouver in the real world? They for some reason occupy a completely different headspace in my mind.
Whistler isn't all that close to Seattle, but it is very close to Vancouver. In fact, maybe I could be educated, but the nearest ski area would be a place like Snoqualmie.
How connected are Seattle and Vancouver in the real world? They for some reason occupy a completely different headspace in my mind.
Close in distance and tourists/shoppers do travel between the two but in terms of business and other aspects not that connected. There are efforts to change that though:
Close in distance and tourists/shoppers do travel between the two but in terms of business and other aspects not that connected. There are efforts to change that though:
Yeah, the border being there makes a huge difference. Technically Vancouver is close to Seattle than Portland is, but Portland feels more connected to Seattle.
Whistler isn't all that close to Seattle, but it is very close to Vancouver. In fact, maybe I could be educated, but the nearest ski area would be a place like Snoqualmie.
How connected are Seattle and Vancouver in the real world? They for some reason occupy a completely different headspace in my mind.
Snoqualmie, Stevens Pass, and Crystal Mountain are all much closer to Seattle, I think that they were just making the point that a major world class skiing destination isn't all that far.
People may not associate the two cities- and as others have mentioned there are efforts underway to connect the region. As someone who lives halfway inbetween the two cities (Bellingham, actually closer to Vancouver), I can say that there are plenty of Canadian shoppers and tourists down here, and they play a key role in our local economy. But not a lot of alliances and partnerships between businesses and organizations. Yet. We stand to benefit, or at least grow and prosper as these things form and business expands.
Interestingly, much of my border county is either rural or wilderness. but again, this is about isolation- and knowing that the suburbs of a major metro start just twenty miles north of us makes it less lonely, even though we're all the way up in the corner...
Whistler isn't a self-sufficient city on its own, it's a world-renowned tourist destination and luxury ski-resort that (wealthy) people fly to in massive droves, and that's why proximity to it is a plus. I'd wager it's a lot more significant and attractive to a wider audience than Steamboat Springs but YMMV.
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Originally Posted by bartonizer
Snoqualmie, Stevens Pass, and Crystal Mountain are all much closer to Seattle, I think that they were just making the point that a major world class skiing destination isn't all that far.
People may not associate the two cities- and as others have mentioned there are efforts underway to connect the region. As someone who lives halfway inbetween the two cities (Bellingham, actually closer to Vancouver), I can say that there are plenty of Canadian shoppers and tourists down here, and they play a key role in our local economy. But not a lot of alliances and partnerships between businesses and organizations. Yet. We stand to benefit, or at least grow and prosper as these things form and business expands.
Interestingly, much of my border county is either rural or wilderness. but again, this is about isolation- and knowing that the suburbs of a major metro start just twenty miles north of us makes it less lonely, even though we're all the way up in the corner...
Which city feels more isolated to you, Seattle or Denver? This can be measured by distance to other major metro areas, the amount of area the city influences, etc. To someone in the Northeast, these two cities feel like the most major lower 48 US cities that are relatively isolated.
Seattle and Vancouver are pretty connected. We visit each other as tourists in large numbers. Companies like Microsoft have second offices in Vancouver. We compete for seaport activity including the Alaska cruise market, with Seattle taking a small lead recently. International air connections are better from Canada so it's often cheaper to fly through there, and Vancouverites often fly through Seattle to US destinations. Vancouverites also flood Seattle anytime the Blue Jays are in town. Soccer is a new rivalry.
Victoria is an even easier connection though. The three-hour ferry is a bit faster than Amtrak to Vancouver, though I've only tried each in the summer. It's all downtown-downtown.
LOL I didn't agree with Svelten, I was simply attempting to explain Bubb Rubb's observation that destinations like Whistler and Victoria aren't that far away from Seattle.
To your point, it sounds like he underestimates Steamboat's appeal, and yes Denver wins this comparison by being close to one of the biggest conglomerations of major resorts in North America. But Whistler Blackcomb is the largest individual complex, by a magnitude. And Seattle isn't lacking for nearby/regional access to ski areas- just not by as many household names.
Regardless, I don't feel that number of ski areas nearby gives anyone a big advantage as it pertains to this thread. Denver has no counterpart to Victoria nearby. Or to Vancouver, or Portland. Again, I've lived in CO and WA, and in my opinion....... Denver feels more isolated in daily living, with Seattle surrounded (both close by and further away) by many more cities and population centers of varying sizes in all directions.
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