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1. Do you have any evidence for teachers moving out? From what I hear, there are many more applicants than jobs for most teaching positions. My cousin taught in Raleigh, this is one of the things I do know about the place-NC schools in general are not highly funded. Now Wyoming. . .Lots of money for schools there.
2. I completely disagree with the bolds. The traffic isn't *that* bad, it's standard city driving. Ever driven in Minneapolis at rush hour? Raleigh is smaller, so probably less traffic. Little greenspace? Just about every city has tons of open space and trails.
3. Kids like sports. There are tons of soccer leagues around. My kids are slightly older than the "hipsters"; most of their friends are having kids. DD and her husband are expecting their first in July; lots of their friends have two already (mid 30s).
I could pull up articles if I wanted to, but I see enough teacher protests on my ride into work to get the notion that there's funding problems. You can't be a low tax state and have stellar services everywhere.
Yes traffic is THAT bad. It's standard traffic for a big city and Denver's not that big. Compared to it's peers in size, it's near the bottom of the list. Whens the last time you've driven I 25 south to E470 during rush hour??? Add to that the traffic on any interstate or highway heading out of Denver to the outdoors. Kids can't transport themselves. If a city doesn't have a lot of greenspace nearby, that means you have to drive the kids to it, which means kids spend more time indoors...
Sports are a family activity, but I was grouping that into the general single adult orientation of the city.
These issues aren't the end of the world obviously, but bigger families are going to feel the brunt of them much more than singles or couples.
It looks like Raleigh has one major league sports franchise, the Carolina Hurricanes of the NHL.
I live in the NW metro area, so the last time I did that drive you mention is probably "never". I've driven plenty on US 36, I-270, 1-225 (have relatives down that way), C-470 to my daughter's house. It is untrue that there is little green space in Denver and environs. Denver itself has several large parks and its mountain parks. Jefferson County has tons of open space and mountain parks. Ditto Boulder/Boulder County. I'm not as familiar as what Adams has. The idea that kids here spend more time indoors compared to Raleigh is preposterous. It's not 90+ degrees with 90+% humidity in the summer here.
..Yes traffic is THAT bad. It's standard traffic for a big city and Denver's not that big. Compared to it's peers in size, it's near the bottom of the list. Whens the last time you've driven I 25 south to E470 during rush hour??? Add to that the traffic on any interstate or highway heading out of Denver to the outdoors. Kids can't transport themselves.
This is absolutely true. Many in Denver and CO try to ignore the reality, or con themselves that it's not that bad. But anyone awake and honest will admit that traffic is horrible (especially at rush hour). Denver in particular is at least a decade behind where it should be with transportation and mobility improvements. The state has huge issues over funding for infrastructure due to TABOR restrictions, so they just wring their hands and cross their fingers that it will somehow fix itself.
This is absolutely true. Many in Denver and CO try to ignore the reality, or con themselves that it's not that bad. But anyone awake and honest will admit that traffic is horrible (especially at rush hour). Denver in particular is at least a decade behind where it should be with transportation and mobility improvements. The state has huge issues over funding for infrastructure due to TABOR restrictions, so they just wring their hands and cross their fingers that it will somehow fix itself.
Heard about similar issues with infrastructure in Raleigh area and pretty much every major growing areas will have same issues. For us, infrastructure and traffic situation will be better anywhere we go(in comparison with where we now of course)
The Raleigh-Durham-Cary area is an underrated gem. Having spent time in both Raleigh and Denver, I'd probably go with Raleigh.
You will get way more for your money, and I find it more relaxed. Access to the beach is great, and people overlook access to the Blue Ridge Mountains and Asheville area. Fly fishing at its best, great hiking.
Denver is OK, and on a clear day the mountains off in the distance are a great view. The LoDo and Larimer areas provide for great entertainment, too. But I concur that it feels pretty sprawl-ish. Also, getting to the mountains on a Friday evening or Saturday morning can be very slow and challenging. You might not enjoy them as much as you think. Yes, the air is dry, and I find that to be a big negative. I find that my mild asthma flares up in Denver -- could be the smog or the dryness.
Raleigh feels more homey to me, and just more relaxed. Great tech scene too.
The Raleigh-Durham-Cary area is an underrated gem. Having spent time in both Raleigh and Denver, I'd probably go with Raleigh.
You will get way more for your money, and I find it more relaxed. Access to the beach is great, and people overlook access to the Blue Ridge Mountains and Asheville area. Fly fishing at its best, great hiking.
Denver is OK, and on a clear day the mountains off in the distance are a great view. The LoDo and Larimer areas provide for great entertainment, too. But I concur that it feels pretty sprawl-ish. Also, getting to the mountains on a Friday evening or Saturday morning can be very slow and challenging. You might not enjoy them as much as you think. Yes, the air is dry, and I find that to be a big negative. I find that my mild asthma flares up in Denver -- could be the smog or the dryness.
Raleigh feels more homey to me, and just more relaxed. Great tech scene too.
Don't mean to nitpick, but I don't see how this could be a negative for Denver and not Raleigh. Same with access to mountain activities.
The idea that kids here spend more time indoors compared to Raleigh is preposterous. It's not 90+ degrees with 90+% humidity in the summer here.
I don’t know about direct comparisons. But Raleigh doesn’t shut down in the summer. I think Wake County’s swim clubs top 10,000 nowadays and the soccer clubs are at least that large.
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