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I might also argue that white flight is negatively impacting St. Louis’ city proper population. Many families may be seeking to escape the malaise and stigma of the city for the suburbs. Same thing has been happening to Detroit, Cleveland, and other rust belt cities for decades.
True, although it's not just white fight that is changing these cities (add Chicago to the mix as well)-- black flight is now outpacing white flight.
MarketStreetEl-- correct in your assessment, but the Great Divorce was 1876, not 1871.
I might also argue that white flight is negatively impacting St. Louis’ city proper population. Many families may be seeking to escape the malaise and stigma of the city for the suburbs. Same thing has been happening to Detroit, Cleveland, and other rust belt cities for decades.
White flight historically has been St. Louis’ biggest problem with population loss in terms of demographics, but recently that tide has shifted more towards black flight. Demographically St. Louis proper is currently becoming less black much in the same way that Chicago is becoming less black.
Additionally, in terms of socio economic and educational demographics, I’d say that St. Louis is further ahead of Detroit and Cleveland in that regard in terms of its “rebound.” St. Louis’ college education or higher level is currently higher than both Detroit’s and Cleveland’s and currently comparable to Chicago’s. The people moving back into the city have degrees and higher salaries, and that’s starting to show in the stats.
I’m not saying that this will be St. Louis’ saving grace or anything, because we all know that Chicago is still losing people as well, but it’s a stat that people seem to be surprised to hear since places like Detroit and Cleveland do a better job drumming up the comeback press than St. Louis.
That it does. What's your line of work, STLgasm? Or should I consider going back over to journalism's hired-gun cousin and find a St. Louis PR firm that will hire me?
That it does. What's your line of work, STLgasm? Or should I consider going back over to journalism's hired-gun cousin and find a St. Louis PR firm that will hire me?
Haha, I am the owner of a local culture/STL apparel shop on Cherokee Street. I'll leave it there!
Minneapolis is way too small for it to overtake Detroit.
Detroit feels way more like a small Chicago; and Minneapolis is basically a big Des Moines.
This thread is about metro areas, not just city propers.
BTW, Minneapolis metro has 3.7 Million people and is growing at a moderate pace, whie Detroit metro only has 4.2 million people and its growth is statistically stagnant.
1. Chicago
2. Minneapolis/St. Paul
3. Detroit
4. St. Louis
5. Columbus
6. Kansas City
7. Cincinnati
8. Cleveland
9. Indianapolis
10. Milwaukee
This is a loose weighing of MSAs and CSAs and where they seem to be headed in terms of reputation, name recognition, and economic health. Not so much about personal preference as I think I'd like Milwaukee quite a bit.
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1. Chicago
2. Minneapolis/St. Paul
3. Detroit
4. St. Louis
5. Columbus
6. Kansas City
7. Cincinnati
8. Cleveland
9. Indianapolis
10. Milwaukee
This is a loose weighing of MSAs and CSAs and where they seem to be headed in terms of reputation, name recognition, and economic health. Not so much about personal preference as I think I'd like Milwaukee quite a bit.
I still consider Cleveland to be the dominant metro in OH. It looks and feels the biggest and most metropolitan of the 3 Cs.
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