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Old 08-11-2020, 08:56 AM
 
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True, but if you hadn't seen SJ in the top ten, you probably wouldn't have posted about this study.
Not true: posted it because Resonance is one of the best group to determine how great a city is, lot better than Wallet Hub or other research groups. It's highly regarded research group and respected by all over the world.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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I dont see a reversal of this trend anytime soon, especially with this current leadership who has a vendetta against our great, ironically Blue, cities.
I always note when a possible favorable Midwest and Northeast stem of out-migrations and possible more in migrations will come after this new decade. Already prices/taxes not Corporate are rising fast in the Largest Sunbelt cities that grew fast. Smaller ones already getting more attention and states currently not the darling Southern fast growing city states are now still much cheaper for Corporate relocation to chose more some of them.

Again, unless this Nation fails more and more or we find our major cities become instead of a Nations Pride as most of the world, but its scourge? Or a region or regions continue to receive all the glory vs continued bleed of others. Cost eventually will even out.

More infrastructure you build and more needed added to. The more costly it will become to continually build outward from cores of cities.

Also with weather? If just the Jet-Stream responsible for arctic blast that creates the worst aspects of winters were to STOP dipping into the US? If it did less? Winters were not have the severity of cold for one.

Another KEY FACTOR is all about where CORPORATE AMERICA STEERS MIGRATIONS for tax incentives and less claimed regulations continues to boost the South. That is the key even over winters. As the longer months of Heat and Humidity are not a huge blessing in reality. All is what it is.

No one really can predict most of what may or may not continue or change. We are such a volatile society that is in a cycle of EXTREMISM we may never have seen before. Rural vs Cities Regions vs Regions etc. Can a Nation survive with some if not most of its major cities let to be declined and abandoned by those it needs most and survive? Even if we have other cities to claim they can become the new TOP cities.

The next up and coming of age and graduation generation will also play a key role.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I dont see a reversal of this trend anytime soon, especially with this current leadership who has a vendetta against our great, ironically Blue, cities.
Arent most major cities blue though? Of the top 50 biggest cities, only 12 have Republican mayors: Fort Worth, Jacksonville, San Diego, El Paso (this one is shocking considering they NEVER vote red in other elections), Oklahoma City, Fresno, Omaha, Colorado Springs, Miami, Tulsa, Mesa, and Arlington). Two of those are suburbs as well.

Some of the cities mentioned earlier: Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Orlando, Tampa, Nashville, etc. are all blue even if some of their suburbs are not.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Arent most major cities blue though? Of the top 50 biggest cities, only 12 have Republican mayors: Fort Worth, Jacksonville, San Diego, El Paso (this one is shocking considering they NEVER vote red in other elections), Oklahoma City, Fresno, Omaha, Colorado Springs, Miami, Tulsa, Mesa, and Arlington). Two of those are suburbs as well.

Some of the cities mentioned earlier: Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Orlando, Tampa, Nashville, etc. are all blue even if some of their suburbs are not.
Yeah thats what I said. Cities have an uncertain future, and with this administration who hates "Blue" Cities... it could only look bleaker.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Here's the list of cities in the top 100 by state:


12 in California: Los Angeles (2nd), San Francisco (3rd), San Diego (6th), San Jose (8th), Sacramento (26th), Santa Rosa (32nd), Oxnard (39th), Riverside (63rd), Fresno (73rd), Stockton (82nd), Modesto (93rd), Bakersfield (95th)

Average ranking: 43.5


7 in Florida: Miami (9th), Orlando (18th), Tampa (30th), Cape Coral (46th), Jacksonville (62nd), North Port (65th), Palm Bay (72nd)

Average ranking: 43.1


6 in Texas: Houston (11th), Dallas (14th), Austin (17th), San Antonio (28th), El Paso (49th), McAllen (83rd)

Average ranking: 33.7


5 in Pennsylvania: Philadelphia (20th), Pittsburgh (53rd), Harrisburg (76th), Allentown (77th), Lancaster (78th)

Average ranking: 60.8


5 in New York: New York (1st), Albany (61st), Rochester (68th), Buffalo (80th), Syracuse (97th)

Average ranking: 61.4


5 in Ohio: Columbus (40th), Cincinnati (58th), Cleveland (70th), Akron (92nd), Dayton (100th)

Average ranking: 72.0


4 in North Carolina: Raleigh (25th), Charlotte (34th), Durham (44th), Greensboro (87th)

Average ranking: 47.5


4 in Tennessee: Nashville (27th), Knoxville (84th), Memphis (85th), Chattanooga (99th)

Average ranking: 73.8


3 in Utah: Provo (24th), Salt Lake City (29th), Ogden (57th)

Average ranking: 36.7


3 in Connecticut: Bridgeport (35th), New Haven (48th), Hartford (51st)

Average ranking: 44.7


3 in Massachusetts: Boston (10th), Worcester (67th), Springfield (90th)

Average ranking: 55.7


3 in South Carolina: Charleston (45th), Columbia (81st), Greenville (88th)

Average ranking: 71.3


2 in Colorado: Denver (16th), Colorado Springs (37th)

Average ranking: 26.5


2 in Arizona: Phoenix (13th), Tucson (41st)

Average ranking: 27.0


2 in Missouri: St. Louis (38th), Kansas City (43rd)

Average ranking: 40.5


2 in Wisconsin: Madison (33rd), Milwaukee (59th)

Average ranking: 46.0


2 in Virginia: Virginia Beach (42nd), Richmond (50th)

Average ranking: 46.0


2 in Washington: Seattle (15th), Spokane (89th)

Average ranking: 52.0


2 in Georgia: Atlanta (12th), Augusta (98th)

Average ranking: 55.0


2 in Michigan: Detroit (55th), Grand Rapids (75th)

Average ranking: 65.0


2 in Kentucky: Lexington (66th), Louisville (69th)

Average ranking: 67.5


2 in Oklahoma: Oklahoma City (64th), Tulsa (86th)

Average ranking: 75.0


2 in Arkansas: Fayetteville (74th), Little Rock (96th)

Average ranking: 85.0


1 in Illinois: Chicago (4th)


1 in District of Columbia: Washington DC (5th)


1 in Nevada: Las Vegas (7th)


1 in Hawaii: Honolulu (19th)


1 in Minnesota: Minneapolis (21st)


1 in Oregon: Portland (22nd)


1 in Maryland: Baltimore (23rd)


1 in Louisiana: New Orleans (31st)


1 in Nebraska: Omaha (36th)


1 in Maine: Portland (47th)


1 in Indiana: Indianapolis (52nd)


1 in New Mexico: Albuquerque (54th)


1 in Idaho: Boise (56th)


1 in Iowa: Des Moines (60th)


1 in Rhode Island: Providence (71st)


1 in Kansas: Wichita (79th)


1 in Alabama: Birmingham (91st)


1 in Mississippi: Jackson (94th)


The first tiebreaker is the average ranking of the cities listed within each state. The second tiebreaker is the highest-ranking top city in each state.

Despite the criticism of the methodology by many in this topic, I do have to credit the makers of this list for not including oversized "boomburbs" like Mesa, AZ; Plano, TX; Aurora, CO; or even Naperville, IL; because their size and stature are wholly dependent upon the larger, vastly more important cities nearby.


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Old 08-11-2020, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Not true: posted it because Resonance is one of the best group to determine how great a city is, lot better than Wallet Hub or other research groups. It's highly regarded research group and respected by all over the world.
And this was the first I've heard of Resonance.

JLL, the biggest commercial real estate firm in the world, produces a global "City Momentum Index" that's widely consulted. However, it focuses mainly on city economies and real estate markets and ignores lifestyle and culture. Their American real estate market survey, "Emerging Trends in Real Estate," produced jointly with PWC, is very influential within that industry.

And from the popular perspective, I think more Americans are familiar. But I don't think Sperling's puts out an overall Top 100 ranking of cities/metros; its site lets you build your own Best Places list according to criteria you choose.

But I did already say upthread that I found Resonance's methodology pretty sound.

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