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Old 07-19-2011, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Whoa! Tranzilli's? You must be from Germantown. There's only one way to be sure, though.

Penn-Knox or Brickyard???
Lol closer to Penn-Knox/Happy Hollow but grew up in Mount Airy with some kids at my school from Brickyard/Dogtown (Philly neighborhood names are crazy btw)

 
Old 07-19-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Another example of what I railed against earlier. No facts, no numbers, no stats, just someone spewing out of their rear end. Pollster31 does that especially well.

For the few of us who actually refer to look at numbers:

Population Age 5+ who speak only English
New Jersey 72.4%
New York 71.4%
California 57.7%
Much like all the grumping that goes on about San Francisco being a sanctuary city. It isn't about Mexicans, it's Chinese, Koreans, and Russians.
I recall chasing a boatload of Chinese around the Presidio, if they got to Clement Street they could live out their lives without ever learning English
 
Old 07-19-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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who cares what illegals speak. they should speak the language where they go back to their country.
And this is where it is that we glean from you that you're a) ignorant and b) just generally have contempt for people of Mexican descent and, it would seem, people from Central America as a whole.

These numbers reflect the people who are living in the US, legally, as citizens or permanent residents. They are not illegal.

In your eyes:

Speaking Spanish = Mexican
Mexican = illegal

You talk about illegals being a slap in the face to people who immigrated here legally, and I agree with you. I don't support illegal immigration, and I doubt if anyone here does.

However, your attitude and beliefs are a slap in the face to millions of Americans. And we're expected to take your quips and anecdotes seriously?
 
Old 07-19-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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why are you guys ignoring the obvoius answer its Vermont i mean its almost 3% minority, i mean what state can beat that. I mean there is French Canadian, irish, italian, and english, and thats all, and you think Cali or NY can beat that, you guys are crazy,
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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why cant u cali posters address my numbers i said here?

seriously. people are severely underestimating new jersey and new york on this forum.

cali is dominated by mexicans. cant u ppl understand that 30 is a much larger number than 17? plus all the illegals. i woudlnt be surprised if cali was more than 70-80% mexican, with 20% legal citizens living there. last time i was there, all i saw were a bunch of mexicans and some whites.

hahaha. maybe cali is barely beating ny/nj in terms of indians, but we are so far ahead to begin with that it will take years to beat us (not even counting other south asians), however we are now beginning to dominate chinese people. we will probably gonna overtake cali's chinese population real soon given that all non-mexicans are leaving cali real quick. no numbers can change the fact that whites, blacks, asians are leaving cali.

then think about how many carribean people we have here that doesnt even exist in cali. plus the fact that all these groups are next to each other, living in harmony with one another.

this one is a lock for ny then nj (can switch order)

numbers below
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Originally Posted by Lifeshadower View Post
DHS | Profiles on Legal Permanent Residents (Country of Birth, India)

Country of Birth: India
2010: California (15,099); New Jersey (8,123)/New York (5,116) =13,329
2009: California (12,826); New Jersey (7,080)/New York (4,410) =11,490
2008: California (14,112); New Jersey (8,083)/New York (5,561) =13,644
2007: California (12,820); New Jersey (7,477)/New York (5,371) = 12,848
2006: California (14,110); New Jersey (6,491)/New York (6,691) =13,182
2005: California (14,724); New Jersey (9,624)/New York (6,693) = 16,317
2004: California (16,703); New Jersey (7,786)/New York (4,872) = 12,658
2003: California (9,508); New Jersey (7,442)/New York (4,138) = 11,508

Past 7 years: California: 109,092; NJ: 62,106/NY: 42,852 = NY/NJ: 104,976

In addition to this statistic
California - DP-1. Profile of General Demographic Characteristics:**2000
New Jersey - DP-1. Profile of General Demographic Characteristics:**2000
New York - DP-1. Profile of General Demographic Characteristics:**2000
Asian Indians: 2000
California: 314,819
New Jersey: 169,180
New York: 251,724
NY/NJ Total: 420,904

Asian Indians: 2010
California: 528,176
New Jersey: 292,256
New York: 313,620
NY/NJ Total: 605,872

Growth 2000-2010
California: +213,357 (+67%)
New Jersey: +123,076 (+72%)
New York: +61,896 (+25%)
NY/NJ Growth: +184,972 (+44%)

Apparently, not a huge enough % return to India because in addition to the foreign born statistic, there's a huge contingent of Indians who lived elsewhere in the US who is moving to California and staying here (well, not really the LA area, but probably the Bay Area or elsewhere in NorCal)

Since 2007 though, NY/NJ (and in 2009/2010, NY alone) has been getting more Chinese from the People's Republic of China by raw number AND by % than California has. It will be interesting to see how long that will last.
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No problem man In fact, its sort of weird, but CA switched places with NJ/NY for a 'traditionally' California Asian group, Chinese (from PRC only, not including Taiwan and HK) for a 'traditionally' Northeastern group, Indians. However, as others will point out really quickly, South Asians are to the Northeast (and increasingly, the South) as East Asians are to the West Coast.

However, Indians are probably one of the MOST dispersed groups in the country (31% live in the Northeast, 27% live in the South, 18% live in the Midwest, 23% live in the West) while Chinese are probably one of the LEAST (33% of all ethnic Chinese in the US live in California, while another 14% live in the rest of the West [nearly half of all Chinese in the US live in the West], as opposed to 30% in the Northeast, 15% in the South, 9% in the Midwest)

Country of Birth: China (People's Republic of China, no Taiwan or HK)

2010: California (18,680): New York (18,859)/New Jersey (2,253) = 21,112
2009: California (17,139): New York (19,921)/New Jersey (2,271) = 22,192
2008: California (21,925): New York (23,981)/New Jersey (2,631) = 26,612
2007: California (22,824): New York (20,317)/New Jersey (2,394) = 22,711
2006: California (27,305); New York (23,891)/New Jersey (2,539) = 26,430
2005: California (17,668); New York (14,505)/New Jersey (2,539) = 17,044
2004: California (16,950); New York (9,262)/ New Jersey (2,023) = 11,255
2003: California (11,573); New York (8,356)/New Jersey (1,688) = 10,044

7 year growth: California 154,164; NY 139,092/NJ 18,839 = NY/NJ 157,931
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Originally Posted by pollster31 View Post
why cant u cali posters address my numbers i said here?

seriously. people are severely underestimating new jersey and new york on this forum.

cali is dominated by mexicans. cant u ppl understand that 30 is a much larger number than 17? plus all the illegals. i woudlnt be surprised if cali was more than 70-80% mexican, with 20% legal citizens living there. last time i was there, all i saw were a bunch of mexicans and some whites.

hahaha. maybe cali is barely beating ny/nj in terms of indians, but we are so far ahead to begin with that it will take years to beat us (not even counting other south asians), however we are now beginning to dominate chinese people. we will probably gonna overtake cali's chinese population real soon given that all non-mexicans are leaving cali real quick. no numbers can change the fact that whites, blacks, asians are leaving cali.

then think about how many carribean people we have here that doesnt even exist in cali. plus the fact that all these groups are next to each other, living in harmony with one another.

this one is a lock for ny then nj (can switch order)

numbers below
It's absolutely not a lock. Care to do the math to figure out how many years it'll take at current immigration trends on both ends before NY gets close to CA with Chinese immigrants? During which time, millions of those CA residents will have had kids, who then have kids, and our Chinese-American population continues to grow
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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i woudlnt be surprised if cali was more than 70-80% mexican, with 20% legal citizens living there.
There is just no meaningful conversation with some people.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
There is just no meaningful conversation with some people.
That, too. The entitlement...

"Crunch numbers and do math for me so I can disregard and misinterpret your figures and respond to serious rebuttals with stupid quips."
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pollster31 View Post
why cant u cali posters address my numbers i said here?

seriously. people are severely underestimating new jersey and new york on this forum.

cali is dominated by mexicans. cant u ppl understand that 30 is a much larger number than 17? plus all the illegals. i woudlnt be surprised if cali was more than 70-80% mexican, with 20% legal citizens living there. last time i was there, all i saw were a bunch of mexicans and some whites.

hahaha. maybe cali is barely beating ny/nj in terms of indians, but we are so far ahead to begin with that it will take years to beat us (not even counting other south asians), however we are now beginning to dominate chinese people. we will probably gonna overtake cali's chinese population real soon given that all non-mexicans are leaving cali real quick. no numbers can change the fact that whites, blacks, asians are leaving cali.

then think about how many carribean people we have here that doesnt even exist in cali. plus the fact that all these groups are next to each other, living in harmony with one another.

this one is a lock for ny then nj (can switch order)

numbers below
Seriously? CA is 80% Mexican? You are becoming more desperate by the day.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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why are you guys ignoring the obvoius answer its Vermont i mean its almost 3% minority, i mean what state can beat that. I mean there is French Canadian, irish, italian, and english, and thats all, and you think Cali or NY can beat that, you guys are crazy,
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You're forgetting about North Dakota. They have an incredibly diverse mix of white Americans of German and Scandinavian descent along with a population that consists of white Americans with blond hair, white Americans with brown hair, white Americans with black hair, and even white Americans with red hair.

There are also several Indian reservations.

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