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View Poll Results: Which city has the brightest future?
St. Louis 25 30.12%
Memphis 11 13.25%
Baltimore 47 56.63%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-16-2020, 10:54 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You said Absolutely nothing that even resembled a benefit in your last 3 posts. So you have nothing.

Is there anyone that can name a benefit of Baltimore's location?
Are you reading the thread? Myself and others have mentioned this so let's break down this more simple for you...

Baltimore-Washington International Airport: sees 26,992,859 passengers a year, of which 1/3 (8.9 million) live in the metropolitan MSA of Washington DC.

STL airport sees 15,878,527/yr
Memphis' numbers are so low it's not even in the top 50 to search, but just know it's less than 10 million.
This brings investment, tourism and visibility to Baltimore's metro. Advantage Baltimore.

The Port of Baltimore: is a deep water port that empties into a bay, and then Atlantic Ocean. This alone is advantage Baltimore. Then throw in the fact the port serves more than 2.9 million MSA Baltimore and anchors a much larger population and region than that, and it wipes the other two out of this conversation. Baltimore has cruise ships that serve the entire mid-Atlantic region. Not even Philly and DC have this.

White collar jobs: Baltimore already has more of them than these other two cities being compared, but it needs more. There are no Fortune 500's in the MSA at the moment, but that can/will change with proper investment. It's still advantage Baltimore over the other two going forward, especially being in a blue state if seeking more white collar jobs down the line.

Transportation/Education: The access that Baltimore has to quality jobs, and/or top tier universities in it's own metro and the CSA overall is by far and away a strong strong advantage that someone living in Memphis, TN would not have. There's no need to even go in depth on this because it's simply that obvious.

I-95 corridor access beyond DC: Baltimore is simply closer to so much more influence whether it be global, national, or regional by rail/air/shuttle bus etc. than those Midwest cities being compared are. investment will hit Baltimore long before it hits Memphis.

That's just scratching the surface honestly, but it's obviously at an advantage, no matter how much you want to deny this.
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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Are you reading the thread? Myself and others have mentioned this so let's break down this more simple for you...

Baltimore-Washington International Airport: sees 26,992,859 passengers a year, of which 1/3 (8.9 million) live in the metropolitan MSA of Washington DC.

STL airport sees 15,878,527/yr
Memphis' numbers are so low it's not even in the top 50 to search, but just know it's less than 10 million.
This brings investment, tourism and visibility to Baltimore's metro. Advantage Baltimore.

The Port of Baltimore: is a deep water port that empties into a bay, and then Atlantic Ocean. This alone is advantage Baltimore. Then throw in the fact the port serves more than 2.9 million MSA Baltimore and anchors a much larger population and region than that, and it wipes the other two out of this conversation. Baltimore has cruise ships that serve the entire mid-Atlantic region. Not even Philly and DC have this.

White collar jobs: Baltimore already has more of them than these other two cities being compared, but it needs more. There are no Fortune 500's in the MSA at the moment, but that can/will change with proper investment. It's still advantage Baltimore over the other two going forward, especially being in a blue state if seeking more white collar jobs down the line.

Transportation/Education: The access that Baltimore has to quality jobs, and/or top tier universities in it's own metro and the CSA overall is by far and away a strong strong advantage that someone living in Memphis, TN would not have. There's no need to even go in depth on this because it's simply that obvious.

I-95 corridor access beyond DC: Baltimore is simply closer to so much more influence whether it be global, national, or regional by rail/air/shuttle bus etc. than those Midwest cities being compared are. investment will hit Baltimore long before it hits Memphis.

That's just scratching the surface honestly, but it's obviously at an advantage, no matter how much you want to deny this.

Baltimore has none? Oh, Memphis has 3
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Northern United States
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I never realized baltimore has no Fortune 500, I’m kinda shocked tbh. Memphis has 3 and St. Louis has 9. However, I’m not sure comparing how many Fortune 500 companies an area has is super important, though it’s interesting.
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:54 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Baltimore has none? Oh, Memphis has 3
Right, but Baltimore metro connects to DC's which has 16. There are residents of Baltimore's MSA working and contributing to the Fortune 500's/1000's in the DC-Baltimore CSA.
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:55 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore has none? Oh, Memphis has 3
Baltimore is the largest city/metro in the country without a Fortune 500 company. Why do you think that is the case?
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:57 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Baltimore is the largest city/metro in the country without a Fortune 500 company. Why do you think that is the case?
You explained the reasons yourself, city crime, Gov Hogan, what else Ravens fans?
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Old 12-16-2020, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You explained the reasons yourself, city crime, Gov Hogan, what else Ravens fans?
That doesn't begin to explain it though.

Baltimore's crime rate was not any more insane than DCs Phillys or Chicago until very recently.

Governor Hogan became governor very recently.

You're talking about basically 2015 to now. that makes no sense in regard to F500 companies being located .
in Bmore
*ravens weren't even here till 96.
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Old 12-16-2020, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I never realized baltimore has no Fortune 500, I’m kinda shocked tbh. Memphis has 3 and St. Louis has 9. However, I’m not sure comparing how many Fortune 500 companies an area has is super important, though it’s interesting.
Yeah, St. Louis is the leader in the bunch in terms of Fortune 500 Companies.
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Old 12-16-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Originally Posted by the resident09 View Post
Are you reading the thread? Myself and others have mentioned this so let's break down this more simple for you...

Baltimore-Washington International Airport: sees 26,992,859 passengers a year, of which 1/3 (8.9 million) live in the metropolitan MSA of Washington DC.

STL airport sees 15,878,527/yr
Memphis' numbers are so low it's not even in the top 50 to search, but just know it's less than 10 million.
This brings investment, tourism and visibility to Baltimore's metro. Advantage Baltimore.

The Port of Baltimore: is a deep water port that empties into a bay, and then Atlantic Ocean. This alone is advantage Baltimore. Then throw in the fact the port serves more than 2.9 million MSA Baltimore and anchors a much larger population and region than that, and it wipes the other two out of this conversation. Baltimore has cruise ships that serve the entire mid-Atlantic region. Not even Philly and DC have this.

White collar jobs: Baltimore already has more of them than these other two cities being compared, but it needs more. There are no Fortune 500's in the MSA at the moment, but that can/will change with proper investment. It's still advantage Baltimore over the other two going forward, especially being in a blue state if seeking more white collar jobs down the line.

Transportation/Education: The access that Baltimore has to quality jobs, and/or top tier universities in it's own metro and the CSA overall is by far and away a strong strong advantage that someone living in Memphis, TN would not have. There's no need to even go in depth on this because it's simply that obvious.

I-95 corridor access beyond DC: Baltimore is simply closer to so much more influence whether it be global, national, or regional by rail/air/shuttle bus etc. than those Midwest cities being compared are. investment will hit Baltimore long before it hits Memphis.

That's just scratching the surface honestly, but it's obviously at an advantage, no matter how much you want to deny this.
The only point that I can give you is having a port. As I said before, the fact that Baltimore is between two larger metros is hindering it success. The way you see it is, that if DC wasn't there, then Baltimore would be less than it is now. I'm saying if DC wasn't there, then Baltimore would be more than what it is now. Baltimore has obstacles that it will likely never overcome because of its location.

Baltimore is essentially fed scraps
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Old 12-16-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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That doesn't begin to explain it though.

Baltimore's crime rate was not any more insane than DCs Phillys or Chicago until very recently.

Governor Hogan became governor very recently.

You're talking about basically 2015 to now. that makes no sense in regard to F500 companies being located .
in Bmore
*ravens weren't even here till 96.
Baltimore City has had corrupt politicians, and disinvestment in the city for decades, which lead to companies leaving, (or being turned off from big time investment aside from Under Armor). When Bethlehem Steel left officially, Baltimore (city) did not appropriately adjust to transitioning into a mix of white collar/blue collar jobs. It has a decent banking/finance presence, but mostly, the white collar jobs in the metro are some form of either state or federal gov't jobs, or medical/research. As far as governors go, all of them can be blamed a bit for not putting the right amount of focus into correcting the state's flagship city. But Baltimore is not the only place in the state a governor is responsible for.
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