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View Poll Results: Which metro area is most different from its central city?
New Orleans 8 12.90%
Detroit 38 61.29%
Baltimore 2 3.23%
Los Angeles 4 6.45%
Atlanta 2 3.23%
Las Vegas 3 4.84%
Nashville 2 3.23%
Other 3 4.84%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-12-2021, 10:46 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Which metropolitan area do y'all think have the biggest contrast between the central city and its suburban and exurban areas? Culturally, politically, demographically etc? There is always a rural-suburban-urban divide in every metro area and this isn't just about strained relations between the city and suburbs though this can be a factor.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:50 PM
 
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Detroit is an obvious answer.

Demographically, the metro area has slowly become more integrated over the past 20 years. But you still have an overwhelmingly black city and overwhelmingly white suburbs.
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:01 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Detroit is an obvious answer.

Demographically, the metro area has slowly become more integrated over the past 20 years. But you still have an overwhelmingly black city and overwhelmingly white suburbs.
Many cities have an overwhelmingly black inner city and very white suburbs. Baltimore is also much the same way. However while the Detroit and Baltimore suburbs are more conservative than the central cities, they're still moderately Democrat leaning or middle of the road. In contrast New Orleans is a very liberal city surrounded by very conservative suburbs. The middle and upper class suburbs of New Orleans are particularly Republican leaning. There really are no pockets of white liberalism in the suburbs.

Also a lot of the New Orleans images (with the exception of food) dissipates in the suburbs with things like voodoo and jazz music. The accents in the surrounding area are very different from the city especially in areas like the Northshore. St. Tammany Parish has a very Sunbelt feel while other areas like Westwego and Chalmette have an industrial blue collar vibe all very different from the architecture of the city of New Orleans as well. If Hammond and Ponchatoula were to be included as part of the New Orleans CSA then the contrast would be even greater.
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:05 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Economically I guess Detroit has a bigger contrast than New Orleans because there are still many very nice areas within New Orleans city limits while this isn't really true for Detroit.

Detroit is a massive slum with a totally failed economy while at least half the city of New Orleans is still very safe and well kept. While some parts of the city do feel like a war zone, its not wide swaths of the city like Detroit (or Baltimore).
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:18 PM
 
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Many cities have an overwhelmingly black inner city and very white suburbs.
That's not true for others major metro areas (which for me, are the top 16 metros in the US).

The others major metros besides Detroit either have majority white city propers (including White Hispanic), or the city propers are fairly balanced demographic-wise.
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:24 PM
 
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That's not true for others major metro areas (which for me, are the top 16 metros in the US).

The others major metros besides Detroit either have majority white city propers (including White Hispanic), or the city propers are fairly balanced demographic-wise.
New Orleans, Baltimore, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, Atlanta, Memphis, and St. Louis all have majority black city propers and majority white suburbs.
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:33 PM
 
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New Orleans, Baltimore, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, Atlanta, Memphis, and St. Louis all have majority black city propers and majority white suburbs.
As the 2010 census:

Chicago is 44% white and 32% black

Philadelphia is 41% black and 39% white (at best, that's only the slimmest of pluralites, not a majority)

Atlanta is 54% and 38% white (the slimmest of majorities)

Washington DC is 51% white and 39% white (yet again, the slimmest of majorities)

Meanwhile, this is Detroit:

83% black
11% white

Like I said, Detroit is in a league of its own.

(those other places you mentioned, I don't consider them to be major metros)
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Old 03-13-2021, 12:10 AM
 
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Oops somehow I glanced over Detroit and ended up choosing Baltimore. But I'd still argue Baltimore is 2nd place.
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Old 03-13-2021, 12:20 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Las Vegas has one of the smallest city/metro area differences of any major metro. Even the city's leading industry isn't exclusive to the city, most of the casinos are in Paradise.

Among Western metros, SF obviously has the starkest difference. I don't know the LA area well but my impression is it's moreso LA County vs. everywhere else.
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Old 03-13-2021, 12:38 AM
 
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Las Vegas has one of the smallest city/metro area differences of any major metro. Even the city's leading industry isn't exclusive to the city, most of the casinos are in Paradise.
Demographically and physically/visually, they are very similar. San Diego is the same: identical median incomes, nearly identical demographics, etc.
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