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View Poll Results: ATL Metro Rank. Has Atl Surpassed DC and Philly
Yes, Atlanta is now 6th largest Metro 26 38.24%
Close but not quite yet 13 19.12%
Passed Philly but Not DC 16 23.53%
Passed DC but not Philly 2 2.94%
It Will Never Happen 11 16.18%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-22-2023, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I note that Demographia chart from 2015 omitted Philadelphia. It should have been included. That might have made Atlanta #7, depending on the trajectories.

 
Old 10-22-2023, 09:59 PM
 
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I note that Demographia chart from 2015 omitted Philadelphia. It should have been included. That might have made Atlanta #7, depending on the trajectories.
Not possible (for Philadelphia to be projected ahead of Atlanta).
 
Old 10-22-2023, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Not possible (for Philadelphia to be projected ahead of Atlanta).
The point I'm making is, the trendlines showed Atlanta rising above both cities by now, and it hasn't yet. It probably will be #6 by 2042, but the omission of Philadelphia from the chart skewed that ranking, as it was also larger than Atlanta then and remains so now, at least for now.

Never say never. Lots of cities planned for growth that never occurred. Buffalo has a much bigger city hall than it now needs for that reason. A good chunk of the 200-odd square miles of corn and soybeans Kansas City, Mo., annexed from the 1950s to the 1980s remain in corn and soybeans. And so on. As Duderino pointed out, the Philly MSA's job growth has outpaced Atlanta's of late.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 03:14 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I think the Atlanta MSA is likely larger than the DC MSA and Philadelphia MSA at this point. If someone were to ask which one is the largest metro or metropolitan area though without any other context or followup questions, I'd probably say Philadelphia, then DC, then Atlanta.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 03:36 PM
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Location: Closer than you think!
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Originally Posted by MarketStEl View Post
The point I'm making is, the trendlines showed Atlanta rising above both cities by now, and it hasn't yet. It probably will be #6 by 2042, but the omission of Philadelphia from the chart skewed that ranking, as it was also larger than Atlanta then and remains so now, at least for now.

Never say never. Lots of cities planned for growth that never occurred. Buffalo has a much bigger city hall than it now needs for that reason. A good chunk of the 200-odd square miles of corn and soybeans Kansas City, Mo., annexed from the 1950s to the 1980s remain in corn and soybeans. And so on. As Duderino pointed out, the Philly MSA's job growth has outpaced Atlanta's of late.
I would point out that the job growth probably has to do with the fact that Philadelphia is recovering from its COVID numbers. Philadelphia was much hit much harder than Atlanta and had more room for recovery, but nevertheless, it's still nice growth for Philadelphia.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Continues to support my thesis: the human species wasn't designed for hard winters.
But neither Washington or Philadelphia have particularly hard winters. Save that title for much of New England and the upper Midwest, and maybe the "rust belt" across northern Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois where they get substantial snow.

I'll go with Atlanta already having passed Philadelphia, but still a little behind Washington. But by the 2030 Census should have moved past both of them, officially.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 06:32 PM
 
Location: OC
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There is a strong anti-sunbelt bias that impacts these kind of polls. Let some people live in denial. It doesn’t really matter since we all know Atlanta is probably bigger than at least Philly right now.
Not imo. Sun belt cities have quite a few fans here and I'll say non-sunbelt cities aren't quite as concerned about passing other cities in population.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 07:55 PM
 
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Its hard to say, I was in D.C. not long ago and it seems to have some pretty respectable growth as well. Its very close if it hasn't happened yet. On a side note, the burbs of D.C. did remind me a bit of ATL.
 
Old 10-23-2023, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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The point I'm making is, the trendlines showed Atlanta rising above both cities by now, and it hasn't yet. It probably will be #6 by 2042, but the omission of Philadelphia from the chart skewed that ranking, as it was also larger than Atlanta then and remains so now, at least for now.

Never say never. Lots of cities planned for growth that never occurred. Buffalo has a much bigger city hall than it now needs for that reason. A good chunk of the 200-odd square miles of corn and soybeans Kansas City, Mo., annexed from the 1950s to the 1980s remain in corn and soybeans. And so on. As Duderino pointed out, the Philly MSA's job growth has outpaced Atlanta's of late.
Seems to be higher quality jobs, not just low income. Job growth is a meager measuring tool if most of the jobs don't pay higher than minimum wage.
 
Old 10-24-2023, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Why does it matter? Is there a prize?

ATL is plagued with massive urban and suburban sprawl, & horrendous traffic.

I lived there for 25 years, & returned last month. I was happy to leave both times.

My Son likes it though, & most young people do. Lots of jobs, & things to do after dark.

The exburbs are still very nice, & attending pro sporting events is fun.

Where it ranks in population is meaningless though. Commute times is more important...or cost of living.
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