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Maybe he is pulling MSA or a different census year?
Either way is picking cherries, latinos aren't underrepresented, which was the reason to pull out the statistics in the first place.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Bay isn't hispanic. How witty of you. And no, "San Francisco Bay Area" isn't a reference to a body of water. "San Francisco Bay" is. Just like "San Pablo Bay" is.
Yes, I know. "San Francisco Bay Area" is the area around San Francisco Bay. It is not the bay area (whatever that is in the generic sense) around San Francisco. Get me now?
32.46% of 7,264,887 is 2,358,182. Numbers are from 2007 american community survey/census estimates.
I'm talking the entire 9 county Bay Area...the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA, which is comparable to the Chicago CSA of 9 million. You're talking about the San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont MSA, a part of the Bay Area, which has roughly 4.2 million people, and getting it confused with the CSA.
wait, on second thought maybe you're not. I'll check my stats again...
"San Francisco feels more urban and vibrant than Chicago"
Nuh-uh. Different, sure. Maybe different in a good way, probably so. "More urban and vibrant?" Nope. The core of Chicago from, say, South Loop all the way up to at least Wrigley, is a wonderfully urban and vibrant place, combining home, work, and street life. Can ordinary people still afford to live in SF proper any more? That isn't what I was given to understand-- and everyone I know who lives in the Bay Area lives some place besides San Francisco and either goes into town just to work or for the odd cultural event, or rarely goes in at all.
"San Francisco feels more urban and vibrant than Chicago"
Nuh-uh. Different, sure. Maybe different in a good way, probably so. "More urban and vibrant?" Nope. The core of Chicago from, say, South Loop all the way up to at least Wrigley, is a wonderfully urban and vibrant place, combining home, work, and street life. Can ordinary people still afford to live in SF proper any more? That isn't what I was given to understand-- and everyone I know who lives in the Bay Area lives some place besides San Francisco and either goes into town just to work or for the odd cultural event, or rarely goes in at all.
Once again: "Ordinary" people live in San Francisco too. Lots of them.
^Care to elaborate on how you draw that simple conclusion?
Downtown chicago, and north/northwest hoods, especially in the warmer months is loaded with people and street vibe and is tough to beat. Im not sure if SF can beat it in the warmer seasons. SF is certainly very vibrant, but as I have been saying, it is in a smaller area, and the weather does play a role in Chicago.
Also downtown chicago just feels much larger land area wise, and to walk you carry yourself much farther distances. It is also surrounded by old industrial areas to the west and south (currently gentrifying at incredibly fast pace though).
Going north from downtown Chicago though, there is no dropoff in vibrancy for at least 12 miles. To the west and south, there is. Since SF has such limited land area on a peninsula, and the industrial areas are far from downtown, there is little of this drop off.
They are just hard to compare for me. In chicago there are more vast areas of vibrancy and energy, with dense pockets farther away from downtown; while in SF with such limited space, the vibrant areas are more close together, and do not carry as great distances. This might give the impression to some that it is more vibrant, but its because the space is smaller, and there is little drop off in energy from one hood to the next. This is just from my own observations of the two cities.
Smaller cities with geographical limitations will feel vibrancy in a smaller area.
32.46% of 7,264,887 is 2,358,182. Numbers are from 2007 american community survey/census estimates.
I live on that site.
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I'm talking the entire 9 county Bay Area...the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA, which is comparable to the Chicago CSA of 9 million.
Actually the Bay Area CSA has 11 Counties.
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You're talking about the San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont MSA, a part of the Bay Area, which has roughly 4.2 million people, and getting it confused with the CSA.
The San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont MSA has 825,000 Hispanics.
And Im definitely not confused between CSA and MSA since Ive been complaining since 2001 when CSAs were first introduced.
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wait, on second thought maybe you're not. I'll check my stats again...
Please do. I wouldnt mind having 2.3 Million Hispanics. Its just that I can find no confirmation of that.
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