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Note the green patches running throughout the LA Basin (indicates good walk-ability). Also note the big chunks of red--those are the mountainous regions that drag LA's cumulative score, like it's overall density numbers, down.
Los Angeles has tons of walkable areas.
I was down there a few months ago and commented in another thread how impressed I was at the pedestrian activity on Sunset and Wilshire all the way to Westside from Hollywood there were people everywhere.
Furthermore, LA feels like a megacity and only New York exudes that same vibe. Neither Toronto nor any other US/Canadian city really comes close.
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Los Angeles has tons of walkable areas.
I was down there a few months ago and commented in another thread how impressed I was at the pedestrian activity on Sunset and Wilshire all the way to Westside from Hollywood there were people everywhere.
Furthermore, LA feels like a megacity and only New York exudes that same vibe. Neither Toronto nor any other US/Canadian city really comes close.
Yeah, they do have some. How do you get to those walkable areas though? People can't walk there to get to them, they drive!
I do not believe anyone knows what an urban city is if they have to ask how someone buys toothpaste without a car. All credibility was lost with that question.
That was a debate on "owning a car vs public transport". With a car you can stop and grab toothpaste/pay a bill/grab a burger via drive-thru/purchase a TV and take it home with you that day/pay your mother a visit. All in the same trip, actually. You can't do any of that while riding the subway. No surprise that you missed the point I was making.
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Yeah, they do have some. How do you get to those walkable areas though? People can't walk there to get to them, they drive!
Here come the spinjobs I was talking about. LA does have public transport. It isn't comprehensive, but it's there. A car-phobe can easily get by without a car, especially if they live and work in the areas West of downtown (Hollywood, Sawtelle, WeHo, Santa Monica, etc etc).
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That was a debate on "owning a car vs public transport". With a car you can stop and grab toothpaste/pay a bill/grab a burger via drive-thru/purchase a TV and take it home with you that day/pay your mother a visit. All in the same trip, actually. You can't do any of that while riding the subway. No surprise that you missed the point I was making.
Yes, you can. Again, if LA was truly urban and you did not own a car this you would know this already.
Yes, you can. Again, if LA was truly urban and you did not own a car this you would know this already.
No, you can't. You can get off the subway, do what you need to do, then get back on, but that's hardly more convenient than driving. You can't just buy a big screen TV and take it with you on the subway, and if your mom lives deep in Suffolk County, for example, you can't just 'decide' to pay her a visit on a whim either. You have to look at subway times, bus schedules/routes, all that fun stuff.
Density and public transportation are two of the dumbest, and overused criteria when evaluating a city, IMO. I wish people would get through their thick skulls that not everyone wants to ride a crowded, hot, train. Options are beautiful thing,hell,even I take the train when I go downtown to avoid parking and traffic, but some of you take it to the next level with this sh*t. You would think that with all this crap about public transportation being brought up by cities like: NYC, DC, Chicago, Boston, and Philly, that they would have some of the best traffic on the nation, however, studies prove otherwise.
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5 million people spread out over 2700 square miles...how beastly! The frightening urbanity of it all, somebody hold me
Meanwhile, poor suburban L.A. needs 750 connected square miles to hit the 7.5 million mark. Maybe someday it'll be a big city too. One can dream.
Toronto has a world class subway system, something LA will never have
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