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Old 07-10-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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Yet when LA developed its own style, and NY, being the insecure whiners that they are, cried that it wasn't "real hip-hop" and the tension developed into the infamous East Coast/West Coast war.
That's your version and there are many depending to whom you talk....... The undeniable fact is New York developed something new and the rest of the world including LA simply copied it. Can you live with that?

 
Old 07-10-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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New York gets its fashion trends from London. That retro look is nothing, but something brought back form the 80s and 90s.
New york being the fashion cap of the world suggest otherwise
lol its the other way around. So london gets its fashion trends from paris?
NYC is a trendsetter. Youths in new york set the bar. How are new yorkers going to be influenced by london I dont even know what someone from london dresses like. And the retro look is from the eighties and nineties, hence retro. Just New York hiphopized fashion from the eighties and nineties
 
Old 07-10-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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New York gets its fashion trends from London. That retro look is nothing, but something brought back form the 80s and 90s.
New York gets its fashion trends from all over the world not a single place on the planet. The fact is, New York takes a trend and turns it into fashion...
 
Old 07-10-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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That's your version and there are many depending to whom you talk....... The undeniable fact is New York developed something new and the rest of the world including LA simply copied it. Can you live with that?
There's a lot of different factors, but it came down to another city was doing something better than NYC, and they couldn't handle it, and it got ugly.

The South's hip hop scene got real big, and NY, as usual, were the first to complain -- saying that "it's not real hop hop" and that "hip hop started in NY."

Nobody copied anything. That's like saying everyone copied Jazz music, and that all the different versions of Jazz that exist outside New Orleans "isn't real jazz."
 
Old 07-10-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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New york being the fashion cap of the world suggest otherwise
lol its the other way around. So london gets its fashion trends from paris?
NYC is a trendsetter. Youths in new york set the bar. How are new yorkers going to be influenced by london I dont even know what someone from london dresses like. And the retro look is from the eighties and nineties, hence retro. Just New York hiphopized fashion from the eighties and nineties
And also to add. What makes you think london doesnt follow trends from new york. America period has a huge influence on fashion, so of course. It goes to simple things like making the baseball fitted popular. Smh at americans so jealous of new york, they're willing to jump ship to cities in other continents

Tell those london youths to take those Yankee fitteds off. lmao smh
 
Old 07-10-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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Is New York City the center of the world?

The answer is: Only to a New Yorker.
I just saw the post that started this thread and simply can't believe someone can post such an absurd comment. Is United Nations, Wall Street and Broadway only important to New Yorkers? Is Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, Time Magazine or New York Times only read in the five boroughs? Are ABC, NBC, CBS, MTV, Comedy Central only watched in New York City? Are the Yankees fan base only limited to the tri-state area? That's absurd.

I understand Chicago (and some other parts of the country) hates everything that New York stands for which is tradition, culture and enlightment but this is also the reason people with means to freely chose place of their residence avoid Chicago and those other places as much as they can and come to New York and LA instead. Go figure!
 
Old 07-10-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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There's a lot of different factors, but it came down to another city was doing something better than NYC, and they couldn't handle it, and it got ugly.

The South's hip hop scene got real big, and NY, as usual, were the first to complain -- saying that "it's not real hop hop" and that "hip hop started in NY."

Nobody copied anything. That's like saying everyone copied Jazz music, and that all the different versions of Jazz that exist outside New Orleans "isn't real jazz."
Right. So according to you hip-hop did not start in New York at all?

Of course they play jazz in Japan and Romania but nobody would claim that jazz is not a product and integral part of American culture and not Japanese or Romanian.
 
Old 07-10-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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There's a lot of different factors, but it came down to another city was doing something better than NYC, and they couldn't handle it, and it got ugly.

The South's hip hop scene got real big, and NY, as usual, were the first to complain -- saying that "it's not real hop hop" and that "hip hop started in NY."

Nobody copied anything. That's like saying everyone copied Jazz music, and that all the different versions of Jazz that exist outside New Orleans "isn't real jazz."
Exactly. But New Orleanians aren't going around saying everybody copied us. Same with Mississippians with blues. Two parts of music that New York owes it's hip hop roots too. We know hip hop started in New York. We respect that. That's as far as it will go. As far as LA, yes hip hop is big in LA amongst Blacks. It's not the only big thing in LA though. But the fact remains, the western part of the South is more influenced by LA than it is NY.
 
Old 07-10-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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Depends what you mean by "center of the world." London is more of a "crossroads of the world" in terms of international visitors, flights, diversity, and number of languages spoken, but NYC obviously has a huge economic impact.
 
Old 07-10-2009, 04:36 PM
 
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Isn't the world's city now supposedly that port (forgot what it's called) in United Arab Emirates?
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