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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Boston 72 63.72%
DC 41 36.28%
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: The City
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Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
You need to show me some proof? A link or something. I already gave you some mathematical reasoning why DC has more structures DT in a larger footprint. This is comical.

Actually honestly you and MD are the comical ones. It is like you cant see the reality
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: The City
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Well to me, D.C. has captured the urban build without the filth of Philly and Boston. I hate dirty cities personally. How someone can like dirty cities is beyond me. I also hate old residential buildings. I like new places. Places that still appear to look new at least. Some people like old stuff, I couldn't care less about old buildings unless it has an office use. Thats probably why I like D.C. so much. Everything is brand new.

This isnt about old or new. This is about reality, an old concept I will agree on that...
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Weren't you just telling me about the URBANITY of Bethesda yesterday? You were saying how DC has so many "urban" areas outside of the city whereas Boston only has Cambridge (which has more urbanity than Alexandria, Bethesda, Silver Spring and Arlington combined).
Bethesda is the suburbs and it is urban but only over a small area. Cambridge has single family homes which is not urban to me. Cambridge and Bethesda are no backbay or logan circle. There are degrees of urbanity. Bethesda is urban for a suburb just like Cambridge is urban for a suburb.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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There's no question that Boston is more urban. Having just arrived back from Boston on Monday, being in DC definitely feels like taking it down a gear or two. Just like going from New York to Philly feels like taking it down a gear or two (or three). Arriving at Logan, going through the Ted Williams Tunnel, exiting on Storrow Drive, and driving through Back Bay all conveys a more bustling and hectic experience than anything you'll find in Washington, DC. In comparison, DC is less dense and less hectic than Boston.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Well to me, D.C. has captured the urban build without the filth of Philly and Boston. I hate dirty cities personally. How someone can like dirty cities is beyond me. I also hate old residential buildings. I like new places. Places that still appear to look new at least. Some people like old stuff, I couldn't care less about old buildings unless it has an office use. Thats probably why I like D.C. so much. Everything is brand new.
Actually, I see little difference in cleanliness between the three cities you mentioned. The cleanliness of the business and tourist cores of the 3 seem pretty comparable, and the lack of cleanliness of the poorer neighborhoods seems equally comparable (e.g., the grit of SW DC seems to mirror that of places like West Philly and Dorchester).

I do agree with you that DC sports a "newer" feel. Since you prefer that, you are in the right city. For those who prefer a good stock of well-preserved historical architecture, Boston and Philly would likely be their preferred locales.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Boston IS a structually denser city - CITY Wide

Now you may not like the development style. But it IS structually denser than DC. The structual density of boston does not drop off outside of the DT, it just may not be as tall. On the whole residential neighborhoods in Boston are more dense than structually dense neighborhoods in DC. Now DC may have a LESS dense DT over a wider footprint, and it is fine that you prefer this, but it is not as urban (to ma an many others) and not as vibrant (especially wiht the density factored). DC looks monotonous to me, or at least moreson than Boston. Preference is subjective, Structual density is not.
Two to four story structures don't look like downtown. Im talking about buildings that need cranes. The slums in Brazil have extremely high density but its not downtown looking density.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Bethesda is the suburbs and it is urban but only over a small area. Cambridge has single family homes which is not urban to me. Cambridge and Bethesda are no backbay or logan circle. There are degrees of urbanity. Bethesda is urban for a suburb just like Cambridge is urban for a suburb.
Cambridge has a population density that is almost twice that of Washington, DC. I guess DC is a suburb too, huh? By your reasoning, the following neighborhoods are not urban:

Ledroit Park
Bloomingdale
Brookland
Petworth
Crestwood
Trinidad
Brightwood
Shepherd Park
Mount Pleasant

Are you willing to stipulate that these neighborhoods containing SFHs (which is about 90% of the whole District) are not urban?
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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Well to me, D.C. has captured the urban build without the filth of Philly and Boston. I hate dirty cities personally. How someone can like dirty cities is beyond me. I also hate old residential buildings. I like new places. Places that still appear to look new at least. Some people like old stuff, I couldn't care less about old buildings unless it has an office use. Thats probably why I like D.C. so much. Everything is brand new.
New is temporary, those new buildings will someday be old buildings. The best type of architecture is something that is timeless.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The City
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Two to four story structures don't look like downtown. Im talking about buildings that need cranes. The slums in Brazil have extremely high density but its not downtown looking density.

And 12 story buildings dont look like 50 story buildings, what is the point. DC is urban without skyscrapers. We all agree the footprint of DC is larger. I think that has been established 100 times in this thread. Isnt the topic which is more urban - to that question the answer is Boston and as I have said there are few cities more urban than DC in the US, Boston just happens to be one of them.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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Exactly, that area is not very urban. Its just a pocket of urbanity in the Bethesda CBD. Having a car is pretty easy around there. If you lived near logan circle or U Street, then we can talk.
Talk about what? Those are great neighborhoods, but there are literally dozens of neighborhoods in Chicago and new York that are more dense/urban that I have been to and lived in
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