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Originally Posted by rainrock
No Rainrock presented more apt statistical categories that refuted some of the insular stats that were being discharged.
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You havent refuted this one bit. Please, refute away...
Total for 3 Largest Minority Groups
Black, Asian and Hispanic Households earning $100,000+
Cities Proper
Philadelphia, PA 18,479
San Francisco, CA 30,688
Combined Statistical Area
Philadelphia 77,949
San Francisco 325,634
Total Income Black, Asian and Hispanic Households(CSA)
Philadelphia $33.6 Billion
San Francisco $90.9 Billion
Homes Owned by Black, Asian and Hispanic Households(CSA)
Philadelphia 343,853
San Francisco 571,663
Perhaps because its not refutable. The Bay Area has far more Wealthy and Upwardly Mobile Minorities that Philadelphia. Period.
And what about this...please---refute away.
Combined Statistical Area/ Total Gross Product($150B+)
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA $475.5 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD $330.0 Billion
You can't. Its a fact. The Bay Area has a significantly larger GDP. Period.
Oh, but that's not all...refute this:
Adults Age 25+with a Bachelor or Graduate Degree
Cities Proper
Philadelphia, PA 195,695.....21.1% of all adults age 25+
San Francisco, CA 297,709.....49.9% of all adults age 25+
Combined Statistical Area
Philadelphia 1,274,422.....30.1% of all adults age 25+
San Francisco 2,022,948...40.7% of all adults age 25+
Once again, numbers speak for themselves. Period.
But wait, there's more...refute this???
Women Earning $100,000+ Annually
Cities Proper
Philadelphia, CA 7,057
San Francisco, CA 26,337
Combined Statistical Area
Philadelphia 64,270
San Francisco 163,381
Women age 18+ with a Bachelor Degree or Higher(CSA)
Philadelphia 687,493
San Francisco 1,042,483
As usual..IRREFUTABLE.
Once again, refute away:
Foreign Born Population
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 5,766,996
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 5,585,752
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 2,150,710
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 2,005,119
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI 1,688,002
Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-VA-MD-WV 1,312,677
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX 1,218,480
Dallas-Ft Worth, TX 1,114,113
Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-NH 1,031,258
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 736,068
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL 707,091
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 674,084
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA 562,596
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD 545,054
Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI 439,555
Not doable. I know.
And what about this?
2007 Nest Egg Index-Cities with the most savings
In the third annual Nest Egg Index, we ranked the 500 top-performing communities based on their residents' personal savings and investing behavior. By measuring a dozen statistical factors - including participation in retirement savings plans, personal debt levels and home ownership - the Nest Egg Index shows the geographic regions where people are succeeding and facing difficulty with their nest eggs. In this year's results, communities that ranked highly in the Nest Egg Index continue to benefit from strong local housing markets and show a high propensity toward saving and investing in retirement vehicles such as 401(k) or pension plans. And while these communities had higher costs of living than the national average, nineteen out of the top 20 also had lower debt levels.
1 Los Alamos, NM
2 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA
3 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT
4 Torrington, CT
5 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA
6 Barnstable Town, MA
7 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN
8 Holland-Grand Haven, MI
9 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA
10 Edwards, CO
11 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA
12 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA
13 Gardnerville-Ranchos, NV
14 Rochester, MN
15 Red Wing, MN
16 Appleton, WI
17 Faribault-Northfield, MN
18 Trenton-Ewing, NJ
19 Naples-Marco Island, FL
20 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT
21 Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA
22 Norwich-New London, CT
23 Lexington Park, MD
24 Boulder, CO
25 Juneau, AK
Nest Egg Index - Your Financial Nest Egg: A.G. Edwards g
You accuse of us stargazing? Hell at least we know how to save money..No Philly on this list.
Also, in relation to our stargazing, one more thing your didnt really REFUTE:
I mean, really.
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Rainrock presented the economic stats of each metro county which are almost identical as far as median household income is concerned( a very slim edge to Bay Area).Furthermore Real estate values that are almost 50% higher in the Bay Area whom The Bay Area enthusiasts surprisingly view as a good thing, almost a badge of honor.Unaware that with Cost of Living added in SF is near the bottom of the metro ranking in terms of spending power.
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In other words, people are willing to more to live in some places and not willing to pay that in others.
Makes perfect sense to me.
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Finally Rainrock tried explaining that Census designated criteria is extremely flawed.
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Its not flawed because the same rules apply to everywhere. You cannot
refute that one bit.
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I could be wrong but I think I read where someone bragged that the Bay Area allegedly sprawls 240 miles from N to S, yet these same people have a tough time grasping the inadequacies of Trenton not being part of Phillys MSA. Trenton is 15 miles from the NE city limits of Philadelphia and 400 feet from Morrisville Bucks County a Philadelphia MSA stalwart.
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The same rules apply to all places and in this case, the numbers don't add up.
So you wan't to bend the rules to suit your personal opinion?
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no more name calling... I am learning more about both cities in this thread than I ever wanted to know... lmao.
