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We've agreed on things before--and this is actually a case where I disagreed with you.
I recognize that the Bronx hosts world class institutions, but few of them actually identify with the Bronx so much as they do with NYC as a whole, and it's understandable given the history of Brooklyn and its relationship with New York City. I've spent quite a bit of time in the hub and the grand concourse, but it certainly doesn't come with the scale or vibrancy that downtown Brooklyn and its surrounding neighborhoods (Park Slope, Dumbo, Fort Greene, etc.) have. The Bronx has its own thing going and what it has going seems quite different from what most notable East Coast cities have.
I think the same could be said for all boroughs though, every one of them is very unique to be it's own city, they all have at least something in common with each other though.
Except that Brooklyn has the distinction of actually having been an independent city (1834-98).
We've agreed on things before--and this is actually a case where I disagreed with you.
I recognize that the Bronx hosts world class institutions, but few of them actually identify with the Bronx so much as they do with NYC as a whole, and it's understandable given the history of Brooklyn and its relationship with New York City. I've spent quite a bit of time in the hub and the grand concourse, but it certainly doesn't come with the scale or vibrancy that downtown Brooklyn and its surrounding neighborhoods (Park Slope, Dumbo, Fort Greene, etc.) have. The Bronx has its own thing going and what it has going seems quite different from what most notable East Coast cities have.
lol. The bronx has just as much vibrancy. Fordham road is one of the busiest shopping districts in the world. And by itself busier than many streets in other cities.
And as far as not identifying with the borough. Does the BRONX zoo ring bells. How about the BRONX bombers Matter fact what institutions were you talking about?
lol. The bronx has just as much vibrancy. Fordham road is one of the busiest shopping districts in the world. And by itself busier than many streets in other cities.
And as far as not identifying with the borough. Does the BRONX zoo ring bells. How about the BRONX bombers Matter fact what institutions were you talking about?
But this thread was specifically about Brooklyn. I don't hijack Bronx threads; why do you have to do that here?
Is Brooklyn like more East Coast cities or New York as a whole?
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Originally Posted by TheFriendlyGod
It seems to me that Brooklyn, considered as a city on its own (which it kind of is but mostly is not) kind of seems more comparable to cities like Philadelphia and Boston than New York as a whole. Mainly this is because it's only got one million more residents than Philly instead of six and a half (!) but it's also more neighborhood-oriented than Manhattan; it's not one huge downtown like Manhattan kind of is. It does pull together as a city more than Queens or the Bronx, though, because it has a single downtown and surrounding regions. How do you think it compares to other East Coast cities in terms of neighborhoods, architecture, geography, and overall "feel"? (Amenities and such it mostly shares with New York as a whole.)
Brooklyn has always reminded me of dense older cities, especially Philadelphia and Boston. Obviously the architecture is different, but Brooklyn also reminds me of the very dense low lying skylines of Europe, especially London.
This seems to be beyond most people here on CD. Whenever a question like most historic city or most European city come up --- New York is totally ignored. People forget MOST people living in New York City do not live in Manhattan and in fact Manhattan makes up less than 10% of NYC's land area! Its not all skyscrapers folks.
Most people, who have never been there, do not realize how small the island of Manhattan is. You can literally walk from one end to the other. I did many times as a child. You could not fit 8+ million people (population of ALL 5 broughs of NYC) on the island of Manhattan unless you built 100+ story apartment buildings.
Brooklyn was it's own city until 1898. If you look around, you will still see signs which say "Welcome to the City of Brooklyn."
Brooklyn has always reminded me of dense older cities, especially Philadelphia and Boston. Obviously the architecture is different, but Brooklyn also reminds me of the very dense low lying skylines of Europe, especially London.
This seems to be beyond most people here on CD. Whenever a question like most historic city or most European city come up --- New York is totally ignored. People forget MOST people living in New York City do not live in Manhattan and in fact Manhattan makes up less than 10% of NYC's land area! Its not all skyscrapers folks.
Very true...
Brooklyn feels a lot like Philly in the neighborhoods, esp areas like University City/West Phila, South Philly and parts of North Philly. Brooklyn is cool -- by far the hippest of New York's boroughs because, moreso than any other NYC borough, natives more identify with being from Brooklyn... the phrase: "I'm just a kid from Brooklyn" is a part of Americana... Brooklyn's identity is of being diverse, working class and down to earth. Manhattan is seen as a bunch of rich, snooty snobs... but it also has its beaches (Brighton, Coney Island, etc) and is very diverse... Love the place... Unlike most "tourists" (I actually know people who live in Brooklyn, I escape from the Central Park-to-34th Street box most tourist on't venture from..
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Matter fact what institutions were you talking about?
Is Brooklyn like more East Coast cities or New York as a whole?
