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Old 12-01-2009, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Though stan-fraud has a quaint set up. Nice try, but talk to us when you actually know something about the arts.
I can't believe after being pummeled time and time again, someone would still pretend to be snobby.

Its hillarious. And quite sad.

 
Old 12-01-2009, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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No SF. HAH. sorry!!
Im sorry, but Michelin is more highly regarded than any other restaurant reviewing body in the world-and I don't even think they even rate Chicago restaurants.

That speaks volumes.

btw, have you come up with any cities in suburban Chicago that compare with Oakland yet?
 
Old 12-01-2009, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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I'd like to see one source that says Chicago Pd does not report violent crime. Nothing you can do, even bringing LA (NO WHERE NEAR THE BAY) into the arguement can not save you. Oakland and Richmond are amongst the 10 most dangerous places in the united states. Illinois does not have one city like that. Chicago=neighborhoods fit for a president to live in. Any presidents live in OAKLAND? Ever? LOL Hey when was the last time a president even WENT to oakland? By the way im still waiting for you to name some sort of globally relevant art institution in the Bay area. And trust me I don't think Chicagoans would want a city like Oakland if you offered to pay them. You can keep it.
Enjoy that side show.

Top 10 Most Dangerous American Cities

At least you guys are safer than Flint...and Detroit....
 
Old 12-01-2009, 01:55 AM
 
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Nice stats looks like old money trumps silicon valley new money yet again. Woodside and atherton are darn near the best they have got too. But oh they are from California so we must be impressed, lol.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:03 AM
 
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I'd like to see one source that says Chicago Pd does not report violent crime.
Table 8 (Illinois) - Crime in the United States 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_08_il.html - broken link)


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Oakland and Richmond are amongst the 10 most dangerous places in the united states.
What's amazing is that even so, Chicago had 510 murders within its city limits and 131,000 property crimes. That's probably more homicides than the Entire Bay Area.

All things considered, Id rather have Oakland's crime rate than Chicago's sheer numbers. I mean 510 murders a year? Seriously? That's beyond our comprehension.

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Illinois does not have one city like that. Chicago=neighborhoods fit for a president to live in. Any presidents live in OAKLAND? Ever?
Actually Oakland has a higher proportion of wealthy blacks than Chicago does.

Black Households Earning $100,000+ Annually, 2007
Oakland, CA 10.8%
Chicago, IL 8.0%

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By the way im still waiting for you to name some sort of globally relevant art institution in the Bay area.
And Im still waiting patiently for the name of one suburb in the ENTIRE Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City CSA that rivals dangerous, nasty and scary Oakland in fine dining, urbanity, sophistication, diversity, the arts scene, etc-add to that natural setting and weather.

I guess I was right all along-such a suburb in Chicagoland does not exist.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:07 AM
 
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These ranks are very random and there are thousands of them.

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Read and weep.

Food & Wine doesn't find San Francisco worthy of mention!!! LOL!!!

Tokyo
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10 Best Restaurant Cities | Food & Wine

What was that about that produce and that wine? LOL!
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:09 AM
 
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Yes,...several.

Household Income:

Winnetka, IL: $277,371
Actually you only named one suburb.

And its a tiny little sliver of a nothing townlet with lots of rich white(96%) people, zero urbanity, zero restaurants of merit, zero diversity, zero art scene, zero, zero, zero.

Anywhere else or can we end this debate now?
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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I've named several. Winnetka is considered suburban Chicago.
Winnetka is rich and white and BORING.

The Bay Area has plenty of that in abundance.

It appears however that outside of Chicago proper, the greater Chicago area is severly lacking in many things.

The fact the whole darn place gets spanked by lowly Oakland is the proof of that.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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Yes,...several.

Household Income:

Winnetka, IL: $277,371
Woodside, CA: $171,126

Winnetka, IL: $277,371
Atherton, CA: $227,113

Winnetka: $277,371
Ghetto Oakland: $40,055

Winnetka: $277,371
San Francisco, CA: $65,519


LOL. Funny, isn't it?
It's funny that you're taking a tiny municipality and comparing it to entire cities such as SF and Oakland which will have households/neighborhoods of much greater wealth than the kind found in Winnetka.

It's also funny that you aren't mentioning the abundance of similarly wealthy areas aside from Atherton and Woodside such as Los Altos Hills and Hillsborough.

You can find a lot of lists from reputable publications that will put Chicago above SF or SF above Chicago in regards to food. It's none-too-impressive.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 02:20 AM
 
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Oakland has an art scene and restaurants of merit? LOL.
*yawns*

Apparently so as Oakland has a Michelin star-rated restaurant whilst Chicagoland does not. LOL


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Sweetie, if I wanted all that I would drive into Chicago
Because it doesnt exist where you live or in any of the other suburbs that surround you. You have no choice but to head into Chicago.

I rest my case.
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