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More on the income and educational attainment of Immigrants. Foreign Born Residents(Age 25+) with a Bachelor Degree or Higher, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 704,010
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 399,233
Foreign Born Residents earning $75,000 annually, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 348,273
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 144,824
Also, In general immigrants have a much bigger overall influence in the Bay Area.
Probably, but I'm not sure if I completely agree with the diversity rankings.
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More on the income and educational attainment of Immigrants. Foreign Born Residents(Age 25+) with a Bachelor Degree or Higher, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 704,010
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 399,233
Foreign Born Residents earning $75,000 annually, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 348,273
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 144,824
I'm originally from the Chicago area and lived there for 16 years. I reside in the bay area now and have been here for 20 years. The bay area is better, absolutely imo.
Chicagoland a good place to be until you're done with college. Great place to build a solid foundation and a good work ethic that will sustain you a lifetime. Bay area is better place to work, and a place that will adjust to you as you evolve, mature, and seek your fortune. Have a great idea and need it funded? The bay area has the type of spirit where you're likely to get financial support which is why it's the high-tech capital of the world as well as the dominant location for venture capital funding. New ideas are pursued here as aggressively as people in Chicagoland run to get out of the freezing blowing wind during the winter months. If you have a great idea in Chicagoland, it's likely to get stuck not only in the snow and bitter cold, but in analysis paralysis.
The bay area offers the highest quality of life. Chicago is a place of short summers and long cold spells, bitter people and racial segregation, a place full of hicks, squares, cornballs, and sourpusses. The bay area offers the most ideal weather, an environment that lifts the moods of its residents. Exercise, proper diet, laughter, humor, smiles from strangers, bright colors, and a general pleasantness are what you frequently encounter here. This extends life and is better for your health. More sunshine here too. I'm married, but I've met more 60 year old women here who don't look a day over 30. A place like this fosters inner peace and fulfillment and as a result, outer beauty.
The bay area is cost-prohibitive because it is such an idea place to call home. A great deal of intellectual activity here and this creates a positive, upbeat ambiance. It naturally keeps out much of the ignorant, illiterate, criminally-inclined savage element that makes Chicagoland so damn segregated. Toxicity is a way of life in Chicagoland. The bay area is far less intrusive and abrasive. The bay area is not without it's problems, but it is far better than the negatives that exist in Chicagoland.
Bay area is better, no question. Chicagoland is for masochists.
Probably, but I'm not sure if I completely agree with the diversity rankings.
Well, Chicago has a Non-Hispanic White Majority, the Bay Area has no majority.
Furthermore, the Bay Area has 3 groups that account for more than 20% of the total population, Chicago only has 1.
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, 2008 Non-Hispanic White 5,531,148...56.4%
Hispanic 1,917,045...19.5%
Black 1,683,891...17.1%
Asian 502,087...5.1%
Two or More Races 114,182...1.1%
Other Race 30,445...0.3%
American Indian 11,363...0.1%
Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander 1,683...0.01%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland,2008 Non-Hispanic White 3,351,099...45.5% Hispanic 1,675,758...22.7% Asian 1,565,087...21.2%
Black 464,886...6.3%
Two Races of More 208,608...2.8%
Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander 39,020...0.5%
Other Race 31,365...0.4%
American Indian 18,621...0.2%
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But percentage-wise?
Foreign Born Residents(Age 25+) with a Bachelor Degree or Higher, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 704,010...32.6% of all Foreign Born Residents
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 399,233...23.5% of all Foreign Born Residents
Foreign Born Residents earning $75,000 annually, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 348,273...16.1% of all Foreign Born Residents
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 144,824...8.4% of all Foreign Born Residents
How can anyone judge that? Especially when Chicago has more Mexicans than anywhere outside LA...
I suppose it is opinion based but I believe it to be true as well, also better and wider variety of asian food. For somebody who has eaten out a lot in both areas, it is pretty obvious call on these two for me. Chicago will win in other categories for sure as well though.
SF, hands down. Much more international city. More sophisticated, more cosmopolitan. Not to mention the weather and natural beauty of the region. Look at how the market has priced these two regions. SF is much more expensive. Even with real estate values taking enormous hits in the past two years, the Bay remains one of the most expensive places in the US to live. If Chicago had more to offer, I believe the market would price this in. Is Chicago a premier city? Absolutely. It just doesnt have the panache.
Chicago is too bland and "All-Americana" for me...it doesn't have the feeling of an international city at all. I loathe the provincial midwest Chicago "scene".
The United States is too diverse of a country for any one city to be "All-American." That would signify that there are places that are more authentically "American" than others. Unless you agree with the Palinites...
(Sounding kind of contradictory), when you leave the country, the differences between a Chicago and a San Francisco pale in comparison to the broader similarities.
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The bay area is better. Thanks for playing.
