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Old 01-31-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Wrong again. Fail. I think you're jealous, but I don't blame you.

As long as there are successful people, there will be fat, bitter and mediocre people who live in the boonies resenting them for being everything they're not. You are obviously jealous of me because I live someplace fabulous aka the Big Apple and you don't. I have it all, you don't. Get over it. I live in what many would refer to as the Center of the Universe - and you don't. Just accept it and move on with your life.
LMFAO! Now the clueless wannabe transplant is accusing the native of the NYC metro of being jealous! What a freakin joke LOL! You = fail.

 
Old 01-31-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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I think it's that it has more than one meaning and that is causing some confusion.
Maybe, but its primarily one troll with multiple IDs who is trying to incite arguments here that is really the problem. He's just pretending to be confused; he has a really pathetic way of being entertained. Aside from him there are a couple other hard-headed individuals that choose to take this as an affront to the honor of NYC rather than pulling their heads out their a$$es. Its already been made clear which definition of the term is in use here. Anyone still resisting based on the other definitions is either simply being stubborn, or just plain dumb.

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My dictionary states "limited in outlook, narrow" is one definition for "provincial" and Princeton wordnet lists that as a definition of "provincialism." However another definition is "rural, peasant" or "lacking in sophistication."

Exactly my point. That much of New York City is focused on the wider world is an argument against it as provincial.

Saying that it's a big city everyone notices is a non-sequitir.

I have no experience with NYC but from what I've seen and read I think it's both provincial and not provincial. It's a big complicated city with a bit of both.
Very true, particularly what's in bold. I believe everyone who is saying that NYC is the most provincial is very clearly differentiating between the part of it that is and the part that isn't. So your statement IMO is absolutely correct.

The part of NYC that is provincial is so much so that I don't know what other city can rival it (although the same attitude is echoed by random overly-territorial/equally small-minded residents of the NE who can't see the world beyond their little region - that's not to say that such a mentality does not exists to some degree in every city/region, however). There are NYers who don't know the first thing about what there is to be found in their neighboring boroughs yet love to talk about how big and great and international NYC is, or what how its "one of the 3 cultural centers of the world," or how its "the center of the universe." LOL. You can't get much more provincial than the closed-mindedness exhibited by this type of NYer. They aren't even able to claim knowledge of 80% of their city, and their world is disturbingly small.

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Old 01-31-2010, 12:54 PM
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NYC would be nothing if it didn't have the rest of this country to support it. However you wanna look at it: infrastructure, food supplies, military might, etc. No one is denying its importance, but to claim it is the only thing in America that matters is laughable. NYC would be about as powerful as Singapore and completely reliant on trade with the rest of the world if it was its own country. So keep it in perspective.
The United States of Goldman Sachs, em, I mean, the United States of America would collapse and go into massive depression if New York City and its institutions were to be wiped off of the face of the planet. Worldwide, it would trigger something similar.

Surely you were around in 2008.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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Compared to the rest of the country or the world its a tiny, insignificant blip on the map; the small-minded tards need to realize that once in a while.
wow just wow. Nyc tiny and insignificant? I've read it all on this website
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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The United States of Goldman Sachs, em, I mean, the United States of America would collapse and go into massive depression if New York City and its institutions were to be wiped off of the face of the planet. Worldwide, it would trigger something similar.

Surely you were around in 2008.
Ah, I see you're employing the use of a diversion to avoid acknowledging the actual point. Nice try, but as I already stated NO ONE IS DENYING THE IMPORTANCE OF NYC. What you fail (miserably) to realize is that NYC is only great b/c of the support of the rest of this country. It would not have developed into much of anything had there never been the rest of the US to help it along, and it can't get by on its own now. Those stocks that it "controls" are based all throughout the nation and beyond; the fashion NYC exports only becomes a big deal once it spreads throughout the nation. The list goes on, but I've already made my point. And you have joined the ranks of those that have proven how provincial NYC residents can be (especially the wannabe hipster transplants).
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:15 PM
 
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wow just wow. Nyc tiny and insignificant? I've read it all on this website
No, clearly you haven't read it all:

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Its a big city, but c'mon! Compared to the rest of the country or the world its a tiny, insignificant blip on the map; the small-minded tards need to realize that once in a while.
Are you seriously going to try and tell us that NYC's 303 square miles are huge and dominant compared to the rest of the (I don't know how many) billions of square miles of this globe?? LOL please stop making NYC look so clueless; I actually love your city and don't enjoy seeing you clowns dragging the great parts of it down with y'all in your ignorance. If you cannot see how small NYC is geographically in comparison to the rest of the world or country (or even your region ) then I pity you.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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yet bergencounty johnny just trashed the whole midwest in a obnoxious manner yet nobody says anything about that. Everyone has some sort of superiority complex on this website. Not just new yorkers.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I can see both of the Boston and New York claims.

However, Portland, Maine gets my vote. I have yet to visit (or live in) a more provincial city. Not that it's not a pretty town or a friendly town, just VERY provincial. You'd think the world revolves around that little city if you spent a little time there talking to many of the locals. In fact, the overly self-congratulatory nature was one of the big reasons I left.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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No, clearly you haven't read it all:



Are you seriously going to try and tell us that NYC's 303 square miles are huge and dominant compared to the rest of the (I don't know how many) billions of square miles of this globe?? LOL please stop making NYC look so clueless; I actually love your city and don't enjoy seeing you clowns dragging the great parts of it down with y'all in your ignorance. If you cannot see how small NYC is geographically in comparison to the rest of the world or country (or even your region ) then I pity you.
I did read it all. That post was an attempt to belittle new york as it should be clear that global importance and physical size have nothing to do with each other in this case
 
Old 01-31-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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If you cannot see how small NYC is geographically in comparison to the rest of the world or country (or even your region ) then I pity you.
Physically, of COURSE it's small... however, influentially, on a global scale it's huge. I'm no New Yorker and never have been but it's ignorant not to be able to acknowledge that NYC has an incredible worldwide influence. I've walked around Europe and see people wearing T-Shirts with pictures of the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty or maps of Manhattan. I've seen people living in huts in rural India with Yankees hats on. New York is HUGELY influential on a global scale in almost every aspect of life from Pop-culture to politics (U.N.) to finance and economics. Only a very elite number of cities are in the same tier as NYC.

Everyone here knows that NYC doesn't cover too much physical area, but I don't see how that matters when you consider how much of a role the city plays in every one of our lives whether you like it or not.
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