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Old 03-01-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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By small I mean a population of no more than 35,000-40,000.

East Palo Alto, CA is a good example...despite being close to upscale areas, EPA is not safe.


YouTube - East Palo Alto's TALIBAN GANG Raided. At least 30 members arrested by FBI & Police.


YouTube - TALIBAN ARMED STAND-OFF FBI POLICE EPA JULY 25 & 26 ,2009 ((HD))


YouTube - East Palo Alto: Cali Ep 3

Although I guess people still know how to have a good time there:


YouTube - tongans goonin' highsiden in east palo alto


In general, the bay area is nice, but there is plenty of crime as well. Highlights how polarized things are, as the middle class disappears:


YouTube - BAY AREA SHOOTINGS
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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Maywood,IL
Harvey, IL
Bellwood, IL
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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I know Maywood, IL had some serious crime issues in the past -- something like 30+ homicides for a city of 25K to 35K.....not sure if they still have this problem......
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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I know Maywood, IL had some serious crime issues in the past -- something like 30+ homicides for a city of 25K to 35K.....not sure if they still have this problem......
still bad, but not that bad
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:16 PM
 
Location: yeah
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EPA, Hayward, Richmond, Vallejo, Antioch...
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Fresno
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Definitly East Palo Alto.....I remember they had 12 seperate shootings in a 12 hour period. Pop back then was 24,000 in 2.5 square miles. They had an officer killed the very first year they had a police department.
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:23 PM
 
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Just as a reference point, East palo alto is literally less than a mile from here in Palo Alto:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&so...ed=0CAoQ8gEwAA

(click on the link and check out the "a" on streetview)

There is something seriously disturbing about such extreme poverty bordered by an embarrassment of wealth.
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:38 PM
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Location: Oakland
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East Palo Alto is a lot better these days than it used to be, though it does have it's problems still, and did get some press due to that crackdown on the "taliban" gang.

East Palo Alto murder rate per 100k residents:

2008 - 14.9/100k (5 murders, pop. 33,513)
2007 - 21.1/100k (7 murders, pop. 32,532)
2006 - 18.4/100k (6 murders, pop. 33,210)

vs.

1992 - 172.7/100k (the year EPA was dubbed the nation's "murder capitol." 42 murders, pop. 24,322)
1991 - 83.5/100k (20 murders, pop. 23,939)
1990 - 93.8/100k (22 murders, pop. 23,451)

As of 2007 East Palo Alto wasn't even in the top 5 highest violent crime rates for the Bay Area:

1. Oakland - 1,917.8
2. Richmond - 1,190.6
3. San Francisco - 1,037.1
4. San Pablo - 1,008.3
5. Vallejo - 932.7
6. Antioch - 843.4
7. El Cerrito - 786.2
8. East Palo Alto - 785.9
9. San Leandro - 703.2
10. Union City - 643.6

Compare that with EPA's high of 2,787.6 violent crimes per 100k residents in 1992. The violent crime rate was well over 3 times higher back then.

So while EPA's crime rate remains above average, and it remains a poor town, it's light years better than it used to be....it's not nearly as bad anymore as many think.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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Maywood,IL
Harvey, IL
Bellwood, IL
I'd add Robbins and Ford Heights.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Here's a list you could look at.
United States cities by crime rate (40,000 – 60,000) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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