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[quote=BPt111;52779217]Where Tampa, Jacksonville will land ?[/QUOTE
Greater Tampa Bay has over 4 million people it should be in tier 2, and JAX should be tier 3.
In the South, Jacksonville is best compared to, and is in the range of cities, as: Richmond, Raleigh, New Orleans, Louisville, Memphis, Oklahoma City, Norfolk, Birmingham, Tulsa...
Tampa is in the range of cities with: Charlotte, Austin, Fort Worth, Orlando, Nashville, San Antonio...
Outside looking in, Tampa seems like a laggard to me. That should be the city we're talking about underachieves...
Using the very latest database, here's a list of reported Urbanized Area populations for areas over 500,000. I've grouped them based on where significant gaps exist to the next one. I've debated on putting Tampa Bay into a category of one but decided to keep them with the other 2+ million UAs.
Birmingham: 770,000
Sarasota: 730,000 (not included with Tampa Bay area)
Tulsa: 710,000
Charleston: 655,000
Cape Coral: 645,000
Baton Rouge: 605,000
Knoxville: 600,000
Missing from this list is Greensboro & Winston-Salem. Neither tops 500,000 and they haven't grown together enough to count as contiguous tracts. If they did, they'd be in the last group.
I've been following this link for years now. Unfortunately, the link only works for the very latest report. You can't link to previous years' reports.
Using the very latest database, here's a list of reported Urbanized Area populations for areas over 500,000. I've grouped them based on where significant gaps exist to the next one. I've debated on putting Tampa Bay into a category of one but decided to keep them with the other 2+ million UAs.
Birmingham: 770,000
Sarasota: 730,000 (not included with Tampa Bay area)
Tulsa: 710,000
Charleston: 655,000
Cape Coral: 645,000
Baton Rouge: 605,000
Knoxville: 600,000
Missing from this list is Greensboro & Winston-Salem. Neither tops 500,000 and they haven't grown together enough to count as contiguous tracts. If they did, they'd be in the last group.
I've been following this link for years now. Unfortunately, the link only works for the very latest report. You can't link to previous years' reports.
Thanks for this! It puts American cities really in perspective, and boy are we spread out. Our densest area LA is 6000 psq mile doesn't even come close to most of the other cities.
Using the very latest database, here's a list of reported Urbanized Area populations for areas over 500,000. I've grouped them based on where significant gaps exist to the next one. I've debated on putting Tampa Bay into a category of one but decided to keep them with the other 2+ million UAs.
Birmingham: 770,000
Sarasota: 730,000 (not included with Tampa Bay area)
Tulsa: 710,000
Charleston: 655,000
Cape Coral: 645,000
Baton Rouge: 605,000
Knoxville: 600,000
Missing from this list is Greensboro & Winston-Salem. Neither tops 500,000 and they haven't grown together enough to count as contiguous tracts. If they did, they'd be in the last group.
I've been following this link for years now. Unfortunately, the link only works for the very latest report. You can't link to previous years' reports.
It should be noted that this is a different source than the U.S. Census/OMB and uses slightly different criteria for delineating urbanized areas. One example is that this source combines Raleigh and Durham into a single urbanized area whereas in the official U.S.-based source, they are separate. I'd like to see this source's methodology because if Raleigh's and Durham's urbanized areas can be combined, I'm not sure why the same can't be true for Charlotte and Gastonia, Concord, and Rock Hill; Greensboro and High Point; Greenville and Mauldin; etc.
It should be noted that this is a different source than the U.S. Census/OMB and uses slightly different criteria for delineating urbanized areas. One example is that this source combines Raleigh and Durham into a single urbanized area whereas in the official U.S.-based source, they are separate. I'd like to see this source's methodology because if Raleigh's and Durham's urbanized areas can be combined, I'm not sure why the same can't be true for Charlotte and Gastonia, Concord, and Rock Hill; Greensboro and High Point; Greenville and Mauldin; etc.
Actually, if you read the source, they'll tell you in a prelude report that this is the first year that they combined Raleigh and Durham into one under just "Raleigh". They did so because of the contiguous development between the the two former areas. Unfortunately, and as I previously said, the source updates the same link each year and I can't link you to past reports. Apparently, Greensboro and W-S haven't reached that sort of connecting development.
I suspect that, over time, other UAs will add adjacent smaller UAs, and other multi-core UAs will be created.
Based on last year's report, and if separate from Durham, Raleigh alone would be slotted near Jacksonville, and Durham wouldn't be on the list because they are too small by themselves like Gboro and W-S.
What's interesting about this sources is that, unlike the OMB, they are updating each year.
It should be noted that this is a different source than the U.S. Census/OMB and uses slightly different criteria for delineating urbanized areas. One example is that this source combines Raleigh and Durham into a single urbanized area whereas in the official U.S.-based source, they are separate. I'd like to see this source's methodology because if Raleigh's and Durham's urbanized areas can be combined, I'm not sure why the same can't be true for Charlotte and Gastonia, Concord, and Rock Hill; Greensboro and High Point; Greenville and Mauldin; etc.
For reference, when combining the urban areas adjacent to Charlotte, this would add 540K and would paint a more accurate picture of the area. Charlotte would fall right around the San Antonio urban area in population.
Using the very latest database, here's a list of reported Urbanized Area populations for areas over 500,000. I've grouped them based on where significant gaps exist to the next one. I've debated on putting Tampa Bay into a category of one but decided to keep them with the other 2+ million UAs.
Birmingham: 770,000
Sarasota: 730,000 (not included with Tampa Bay area)
Tulsa: 710,000
Charleston: 655,000
Cape Coral: 645,000
Columbia: 610,000
Baton Rouge: 605,000
Knoxville: 600,000
Missing from this list is Greensboro & Winston-Salem. Neither tops 500,000 and they haven't grown together enough to count as contiguous tracts. If they did, they'd be in the last group.
I've been following this link for years now. Unfortunately, the link only works for the very latest report. You can't link to previous years' reports.
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