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When you say MOST PARTS OF MARYLAND what parts exactly to you mean?
Technically the Mason-Dixon line was a property dispute between MD and PA. Also, if u extend the mason-dixon line further east & west, 25% of NJ would be in south, and part of W.VA would be northern.
I didnt say anything about Soul Food cooking, that's a black thing. Where ever there is black people, there is soul food....so your soul food statement is pointless.
As far as accents go, visit the Baltimore area, Philly area & south NJ....same accent. DC's accent, thought different from Baltimore's, is Not southern. Western MD = central western PA. I cant really speak about the eastern shore.
I'm with you on the first part. Regardless of the Mason Dixon line, anyone who considers Maryland to be "culturally" the "South" has not spent any significant time in the REAL southern states. Although there may be some residual remnants of the old, regional, "Chesapeake" version of southern culture out on the Eastern Shore and deep in southern Maryland--the state of MD on a whole is not really "southern."
I disagree with you on the accents though (African Americans in particular). I'm originally from Philly and live in Baltimore city. My lady is a Baltimore native. People in Philly and Baltimore DO NOT have the same accent. Of course there are "some" similarities since the two cities are relatively close, but Baltimore definitely has its own distinct accent. I can hear someone talk and KNOW that he or she is from Baltimore. I can hear another person speak and KNOW that the person is from the Philly area. Each of these two cities has its own distinct accent that pronounces certain vowels differently, and any word with the letter "R" in it is pronounced differently. I'm not a linguist and can't really describe it in words, I just can tell when I hear it. The Baltimore accent has some weird/unique features in it that I haven't heard in ANY other accent.
I work in DC too. To me, the DC accent (among African-Americans) has a slightly more southern sound to it than the Baltimore accent...but still, Not a DEEP South accent like you hear down in Georgia or the Carolinas. There are also differences based on class & education levels. The accents of each city is usually strongest among the indigenous working-class/lower middle-class natives. People of higher education levels (whether in Philly, Bmore, or DC) seem to develop a more general, generic, "educated" mid-Atlantic sound that's harder tell apart.
But back to the topic...African-Americans (non-Caribbean) from the Miami area sound COMPLETELY southern to me, can't tell them apart from the accents in Georgia or Carolina. And even in some of the "northern" cities in the midwest (especially Chicago), many blacks out there sound REALLY southern.
Saying Merlin is not southern (maybe coming from NYC it sounds southern). That's the DC accent where they stretch the R's. In Baltimore they stretch the EW. People in VA, NC, SC, GA don't say Merlin. Philly and Bmore have different accents but they share similar words. So does DC. They all say brova = brother.
Saying Merlin is not southern (maybe coming from NYC it sounds southern). That's the DC accent where they stretch the R's. In Baltimore they stretch the EW. People in VA, NC, SC, GA don't say Merlin. Philly and Bmore have different accents but they share similar words. So does DC. They all say brova = brother.
I disagree with you on the accents though (African Americans in particular). I'm originally from Philly and live in Baltimore city. My lady is a Baltimore native. People in Philly and Baltimore DO NOT have the same accent. Of course there are "some" similarities since the two cities are relatively close, but Baltimore definitely has its own distinct accent. I can hear someone talk and KNOW that he or she is from Baltimore. I can hear another person speak and KNOW that the person is from the Philly area. Each of these two cities has its own distinct accent that pronounces certain vowels differently, and any word with the letter "R" in it is pronounced differently. I'm not a linguist and can't really describe it in words, I just can tell when I hear it. The Baltimore accent has some weird/unique features in it that I haven't heard in ANY other accent.
I work in DC too. To me, the DC accent (among African-Americans) has a slightly more southern sound to it than the Baltimore accent...but still, Not a DEEP South accent like you hear down in Georgia or the Carolinas. There are also differences based on class & education levels. The accents of each city is usually strongest among the indigenous working-class/lower middle-class natives. People of higher education levels (whether in Philly, Bmore, or DC) seem to develop a more general, generic, "educated" mid-Atlantic sound that's harder tell apart.
Black people in Baltimore & Philly have difference accents.. agreed\
I meant to say white people in Baltimore and philly have similar accents.
I have co-workers from philly and S. jersey that sound like they're from Baltimore.
There are Waffle House's in Pennsylvania more than Maryland actually
Waffle House Restaurant Locator (http://www.wafflehouse.com/welcome/component/content/article/38/79-waffle-house-restaurant-locator - broken link)
I actually find many parts of PA outside of Philly metro, more similart to Virginia than MD...Amish country and much of central PA has much more of a country laid back feel, which people in this threads continue to confuse with southern.
I've never seen a confederate flag in 26 years of living in MD unless it's someone riding up 95 with Alabama plates on the way to New York for sightseeing, so we can throw that thought away.
When you say MOST PARTS OF MARYLAND what parts exactly to you mean?
Technically the Mason-Dixon line was a property dispute between MD and PA. Also, if u extend the mason-dixon line further east & west, 25% of NJ would be in south, and part of W.VA would be northern.
I didnt say anything about Soul Food cooking, that's a black thing. Where ever there is black people, there is soul food....so your soul food statement is pointless.
As far as accents go, visit the Baltimore area, Philly area & south NJ....same accent. DC's accent, thought different from Baltimore's, is Not southern. Western MD = central western PA. I cant really speak about the eastern shore.
So basically you are stereotyping Maryland which further mutes your argument against the Reality that Maryland is a Southern State........
Just by judging from what you stated its Obvious that you ave not been to other parts of Maryland outside of the Baltimore-Washington Corridor......
Hell Prince Georges County, Maryland is more Southern than Fairfax County, Virginia............
I'm with you on the first part. Regardless of the Mason Dixon line, anyone who considers Maryland to be "culturally" the "South" has not spent any significant time in the REAL southern states. Although there may be some residual remnants of the old, regional, "Chesapeake" version of southern culture out on the Eastern Shore and deep in southern Maryland--the state of MD on a whole is not really "southern."
I disagree with you on the accents though (African Americans in particular). I'm originally from Philly and live in Baltimore city. My lady is a Baltimore native. People in Philly and Baltimore DO NOT have the same accent. Of course there are "some" similarities since the two cities are relatively close, but Baltimore definitely has its own distinct accent. I can hear someone talk and KNOW that he or she is from Baltimore. I can hear another person speak and KNOW that the person is from the Philly area. Each of these two cities has its own distinct accent that pronounces certain vowels differently, and any word with the letter "R" in it is pronounced differently. I'm not a linguist and can't really describe it in words, I just can tell when I hear it. The Baltimore accent has some weird/unique features in it that I haven't heard in ANY other accent.
I work in DC too. To me, the DC accent (among African-Americans) has a slightly more southern sound to it than the Baltimore accent...but still, Not a DEEP South accent like you hear down in Georgia or the Carolinas. There are also differences based on class & education levels. The accents of each city is usually strongest among the indigenous working-class/lower middle-class natives. People of higher education levels (whether in Philly, Bmore, or DC) seem to develop a more general, generic, "educated" mid-Atlantic sound that's harder tell apart.
But back to the topic...African-Americans (non-Caribbean) from the Miami area sound COMPLETELY southern to me, can't tell them apart from the accents in Georgia or Carolina. And even in some of the "northern" cities in the midwest (especially Chicago), many blacks out there sound REALLY southern.
Either way you wanna state it, Maryland is a Southern State.....
And the little stereotypes your making just to justify your biased argument against the reality of Maryland being in the south can just as well be said about Virginia(especially Northern Virginia), Florida, and Texas........
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