People giving us crap about possible move to NE Ohio (Cleveland: 2014, limo)

[Rebek56]

Mamabear, taxes are higher, but other aspects of COL are not. Parks in Ohio are generally free (as they are not in Florida, where I grew up) as are many fine museums. My experience (admittedly limited) is that the public libraries are also better, and Cleveland has good transit (not that I have lived there or used it). If we want amenities, someone has to pay for them, and much of Ohio spreads the cost through taxes.

[teacherdad]

Gas? 1.84 per gallon a two weeks ago. 2.49 per gallon is cheapest here, with some at 3.99. Yes, taxes higher, but other amenities offset those a bit. I pay 9.3% in state income tax. I pay $8600 per year in prop taxes because my 3 bedroom (2200 sq. ft), 1960's track home on a slab is worth $825k. LOL

Some museums are free in CLE, but not here. Want to have a campsite on the beach? $42 per night or $95 across the street. I doubt nice sites in Ohio are that much per night.

COL is less in Ohio (CLE) even with the taxes.

[Rebek56]

BTW, where are you now, Mamabear?

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

You only posted all the negative YouTube videos about Cleveland (i.e. "Cleveland Hastily Tourism" video)

You gotta lighten up. Have a sense of humor. Those "Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism" videos made me laugh.

I didn't take them too seriously. One can cast any city in such a negative light simply by cherry picking what one does and does not show.

[Stonepa]

Originally Posted by MamaBear999

Kind of confused about lower cost of living in the Cleveland area. Compared to where I live in the south and have lived in serveral other southern states, propery taxes are double sometimes triple up in NE Ohio than what we have been paying in the South. I have no idea how utilities would compare. Daycare/after-school programs seem more expensive, but I think daycare is expensive everywhere, I just have a really good deal with who my kids go to now. But yes, compared to places out West and the New England states I can see where NE Ohio would come up cheaper.


Also, I am intrigued as to what people do for a living in the Brecksville (OH) area, have you looked up the median household income?? !!!! According to Wixipedia....


"The median income for a household in the city was $88,358, and the median income for a family was $104,347. Males had a median income of $65,382 versus $39,912 for females. The per capita income for the city was $37,838. About 1.8% of families and 2.5% of the population were below the poverty line, including 2.8% of those under age 18 and 4.6% of those age 65 or over."

The taxes here are more than worth it. My wife came from the Atlanta suburb of Vinings. We thought about staying there after we got married but the public schools were so bad throughout Atlanta that we chose Cleveland area instead. When we moved in 2000 you had to send your kids to private school in Atlanta. Most of the Cleveland suburb schools are every bit as nice as the private schools down south.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by MamaBear999

People(mainly family) are always like, "why you moving there, it's so cold." Evidently it's a sin to live anywhere it's cold.

Give them crap about being small-minded and unadventurous (if that's a word, LOL).

[Stonepa]

Read in the Cleveland paper that the Cleveland area has the highest new car sales per capita of any city in the nation. Super low cost of living, combined with copious amounts of winter road salt, means we buy a lot more new cars than other areas.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Stonepa

Read in the Cleveland paper that the Cleveland area has the highest new car sales per capita of any city in the nation. Super low cost of living, combined with copious amounts of winter road salt, means we buy a lot more new cars than other areas.

Most newly manufactured vehicles today, with copious use of plastics, rust-resistant metal alloys, and superior surface coatings, are much more rust resistant than vehicles manufactured several decades ago.

It's possible to own a car for a decade and not have problems with rust.

It still isn't Arizona, however.

The lower COL in Cleveland certainly does make it easier to purchase a new vehicle. E.g., we have among the very lowest housing costs in the U.S.

Stonepa, could you provide a link to the article that you mentioned? I couldn't find it. TIA!

[thinkalot]

Museums are not free. You are supposed to put money in the clear box when you go in.

Cuyahoga taxes are high for the services provided.

Many roads are terrible. I haven't seen a pothole in the years since I moved.

A newcomer would find so many great things to do at reasonable prices.

Great food choices.

Most winters are much worse than this one.

Most people are nice. There are a few idiots wherever you live.

You won't need as big a house since you will have a basement.

Tornados. Seldom but they happen.

If I ever move back to Ohio it will be in the Cleveland area.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by thinkalot

Museums are not free. You are supposed to put money in the clear box when you go in.

Anybody can walk into the Cleveland Museum of Art with absolutely no hassle. Nobody checks for tickets and there are no admission lines. It's like walking into a mall.

Yes, if you can afford it, you should make a contribution. Ditto, at places like the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, which also is a magnificent institution with no admission charge, and other major art museums in Ohio, such as Toledo.

However, the Cleveland Museum of Art is not like the Met in NYC -- no tickets are required for admission to the CMA's general galleries. The Met also has free admission, but you have to request it.

Visit | The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Memberships to the CMA are a great deal. They are relatively cheap and members get free admission to special exhibits, and discounts at the museum's restaurants, gift shops, parking garage, etc.