Why Cleveland home sell so cheap? (Euclid, Prospect: apartments, movers, condos)

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by Sreysrey

Everyone respond is very helpful. Thank you. I'm interested in Cleveland now and will study more about it. Will visit one day.

That’s a wise decision. The best way to make a decision about a place is to see it for yourself.

[gouldnm]

Originally Posted by Minervah

My experience living in the PNW anyway was just the opposite. Constant layoffs and business shut downs. Only some professions flourished. But just as in the Midwest, much of that depended upon what type of work you did.

I know less about the West Coast than the East, although I do have family in both San Francisco and the Portland area. My niece moved to Portland about a year ago and found a job right away.


When I moved from Ohio to New Jersey, the thing that blew me away was the amount of jobs. People had no concept of having to leave the area where they grew up to find employment. So different from the rust belt where I grew up, where virtually every person I went to high school with left town. There's a reason why the cities in the East tend to be flooded with immigrants and transplants from other parts of the U.S. There are tons and tons of people like me and my husband who came for the jobs.


Real estate tends to appreciate much faster on the coasts than it does in the Midwest. When my sister put her house on the market (in San Francisco), it sold within a day or two. The place that she bought near Portland has already gone way up in value--and it's only been a few years. The trick, of course, is getting into the market to begin with.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by gouldnm

I know less about the West Coast than the East, although I do have family in both San Francisco and the Portland area. My niece moved to Portland about a year ago and found a job right away.


When I moved from Ohio to New Jersey, the thing that blew me away was the amount of jobs. People had no concept of having to leave the area where they grew up to find employment. So different from the rust belt where I grew up, where virtually every person I went to high school with left town. There's a reason why the cities in the East tend to be flooded with immigrants and transplants from other parts of the U.S. There are tons and tons of people like me and my husband who came for the jobs.


Real estate tends to appreciate much faster on the coasts than it does in the Midwest. When my sister put her house on the market (in San Francisco), it sold within a day or two. The place that she bought near Portland has already gone way up in value--and it's only been a few years. The trick, of course, is getting into the market to begin with.

In my opinion, you're comparing apples and oranges. Real estate on the Coasts is gonna appreciate more than the Midwest because there's better economy and wealth on the Coasts so there's higher demand. Also, bigger and growing populations than the Midwest. In the Midwest, populations are declining, and the reputation and perception by the media doesn't help either. Plus, it all depends on the areas out there just like anywhere else. I'm curious what job field were you and your husband in?

Also, people on the Coasts wouldn't get the concept because they never had to leave to gain employment, everything is right there. Oh, it must be nice to be handed things lol (meaning people who are on the Coasts).

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

Also, people on the Coasts wouldn't get the concept because they never had to leave to gain employment, everything is right there. Oh, it must be nice to be handed things lol (meaning people who are on the Coasts).

Competition for jobs here is intense. Imagine everyone you're competing with has an Ivy League MA. Normal here.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Competition for jobs here is intense. Imagine everyone you're competing with has an Ivy League MA. Normal here.

My point exactly, we never been handed things like the Coasts. We have to work hard and grind and we get laughed at for it.

[gouldnm]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

In my opinion, you're comparing apples and oranges. Real estate on the Coasts is gonna appreciate more than the Midwest because there's better economy and wealth on the Coasts so there's higher demand. Also, bigger and growing populations than the Midwest. In the Midwest, populations are declining, and the reputation and perception by the media doesn't help either. Plus, it all depends on the areas out there just like anywhere else. I'm curious what job field were you and your husband in?

Also, people on the Coasts wouldn't get the concept because they never had to leave to gain employment, everything is right there. Oh, it must be nice to be handed things lol (meaning people who are on the Coasts).

QCongress:
You ask what fields my husband and I are in: I'd rather not go into too much detail about what we do online, but I can tell you that we are both in technical occupations: He has a background in math and works with computers, I'm an engineer.


I agree that the people on the coasts have been handed things and completely take it all for granted.


It's sad that the "reputation and perception" of the Midwest isn't so great, because I think the quality of life is a lot higher in Midwestern cities than on the coasts. So I guess Midwesterners take some things for granted, too.


I feel sad reading this forum because Clevelanders seem to have such a defensive attitude about their city. I'm glad I've spent so many years on the East Coast if only because it's taught me to appreciate the quality of life in the Midwest. If I do end up retiring in Cleveland (my current plan), I'll have no regrets.

[gouldnm]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Competition for jobs here is intense. Imagine everyone you're competing with has an Ivy League MA. Normal here.

You don't need an Ivy League background to do well in Massachusetts. My first husband grew up just outside of Boston and most of his friends did not attend Ivy League schools. Yet they all found jobs in the Boston area and are now very successful. They might not have gotten as far as they could have with an Ivy League degree, but they are doing well enough. Most Midwesterners would kill to have jobs like theirs.


That being said, it is much easier if you grew up there and already know people. It would be much harder for someone from the Midwest to relocate there.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by gouldnm

You don't need an Ivy League background to do well in Massachusetts. My first husband grew up just outside of Boston and most of his friends did not attend Ivy League schools. Yet they all found jobs in the Boston area and are now very successful. They might not have gotten as far as they could have with an Ivy League degree, but they are doing well enough. Most Midwesterners would kill to have jobs like theirs.

Well, I don't know how old you or your husband are, but this area is very different from even a decade ago. I live here now, not the 80s or 90s.

I don't have an Ivy League degree either. I have a couple BAs from OSU,that's it. But that doesn't mean the competition isn't intense. It is.

[gouldnm]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Well, I don't know how old you or your husband are, but this area is very different from even a decade ago. I live here now, not the 80s or 90s.

I don't have an Ivy League degree either. I have a couple BAs from OSU,that's it. But that doesn't mean the competition isn't intense. It is.

I think one good measure would be how many kids growing up in the Boston area are leaving the region to find work? That's still very common in the rust belt.


BTW, my husband's friends and siblings all have kids who are young adults. One of them graduated UMass a few years ago and is now working in the computer field with a major corporation.

[teacherdad]

My buddy lives in Ipswich with his own business that he started years ago. He does very well and I do not think he has more than a BA.

Attitude, hard work, creativity are beginning to earn jobs more than ever before. IMO