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View Poll Results: Can U-M and MSU be quality, top notch programs simultaneously?
yes they can 7 70.00%
no..we'll return to old pattern: U-M mostly up, MSU occasionally 0 0%
it is more likely both programs will both be down 0 0%
MSU will end up being the dominant program in the state 3 30.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-16-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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we know traditionally in the great lakes state, when either Michigan or Michigan State is up, the other one is down. When MSU joined the Big Ten in the early 1950s, it immediately won a Big Ten title along with winning a couple national titles. MSU was a powerhouse during the Duffy Doughty years of the 1950s-60s, culminating with the 1966 "game of the century" between MSU and ND. flash forward to today when the Mark Dantonio era has been marked by the rise of MSU to national prominence and winning 6 of 7 games from the Wolverines. the rest of the years were basically the Wolverines on top with the Spartans no serious challenge. With the Big Ten being OSU and U-M and the eight dwarfs. With all seasons coming down to the end clash in either Columbus or Ann Arbor.

Tomorrow's class between Harbaugh's Wolverines and Dantonio's Spartans is the first that brings both programs that brings together a clash of titans. It is arguably the biggest U-M vs. MSU game ever, certainly the one that has gathered the most national attention. ESPN"s game day wouldn't possibly be anywhere else but Ann Arbor tomorrow.

So here's the question (regardless of tomorrow's outcome): are U-M and MSU capable of being top notch, quality programs within the national title picture at the same time, able to carry on that status over a number of years?

or is this a fluke that will result in one other or both programs dropping out of prominence soon?

Can U-M and MSU actually both be consistently good at the same time? Can they pull off what UF and FSU have? Bama and Auburn? Texas and A&M? Or is it likely that only one will be on top at a given time.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: AriZona
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ALL things are possible!
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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Yes, they can be.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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In today's college football world you need a really good coach and a really good quarterback and no glaring weaknesses elsewhere in order to be competitive. So long as both schools meet the criteria, they can both be god
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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What the heck just happened?

Wow....
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Shades of the famous Czonka fumble in the 1978 Miracle of the Meadowlands.
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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lol
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Wow. Epic. Fail. That may be one of the biggest last-second chokejobs in college football history.
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Kickers just lose all perspective when there is a fire drill. He was facing backwards and was still trying to kick the ball.
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Old 10-17-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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I guess John is better at coaching punters than Jim.
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