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Old 01-05-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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As time goes on I realize that the economic landscape of America is changing. Slowly, but surely we are seeing a greater and greater divide between the educated and un-educated. This will eventually transform into a nation of "haves" and "have-nots." Like it or not, the middle class is loosing power and size. I want to go back to school and get my degree. The past few years I've become intrigued by how people think and interact so physchology interests me. Here are my dilemmas; I've never been much of a classroom leaner, I've always learned by actually doing not by listening to a teacher or reading out of a book, I work long hours, 10-12 hours a day,(often 5-6 hours on saturday), so time is really against me, and last my math skills are horrific, I'm lost without a calculator. I do not want to be a "have-not." I want to better myself, but I'm feeling like I won't be able to. I would really appreciate advice from a professional or someone involved with higher education. Thanks.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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As time goes on I realize that the economic landscape of America is changing. Slowly, but surely we are seeing a greater and greater divide between the educated and un-educated. This will eventually transform into a nation of "haves" and "have-nots." Like it or not, the middle class is loosing power and size. I want to go back to school and get my degree. The past few years I've become intrigued by how people think and interact so physchology interests me. Here are my dilemmas; I've never been much of a classroom leaner, I've always learned by actually doing not by listening to a teacher or reading out of a book, I work long hours, 10-12 hours a day,(often 5-6 hours on saturday), so time is really against me, and last my math skills are horrific, I'm lost without a calculator. I do not want to be a "have-not." I want to better myself, but I'm feeling like I won't be able to. I would really appreciate advice from a professional or someone involved with higher education. Thanks.
Eventually? Hasn't it been this way for the last 10-20 years? There is barely a middle class left...
Unfortunately society has accepted the notion that folks need to be "book" smart if they are to assume certain roles in the community. It won't matter how intelligent one is; if they have no "education" they are ignored.

I just wonder who it was that taught original "teachers" and how did education come to be if there were no "educated" folks in the beginning?

All knowledge originated from SOMEWHERE and at one time there was NO knowledge until someone learned it on their own.
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:18 AM
 
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Unfortunately, many of the educated also have not.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:16 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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In the field of psychology, a bachelor's degree will get you an entry level job in a social agency, maybe
$40,000 if they haven't been dropped by budget cuts. To become a "have" as you put it will require a master at least, better yet PhD. That's 2-4 years of graduate school in addition to the 4 year degree.

Psychology degrees do require a significant amount of statistical analysis work (think math and numbers).
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New York City
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You should see a education/career counselor. Almost every state school has one. Stay away from any for profit schools. They just want your money.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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maybe pshychiatric nursing?

won't make as much but won't need as much schooling either.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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Default all colleges charge money

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You should see a education/career counselor. Almost every state school has one. Stay away from any for profit schools. They just want your money.


You do not think your state colleges and universities want your money? See how long they let you enroll in classes if you do not pay them.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You do not think your state colleges and universities want your money? See how long they let you enroll in classes if you do not pay them.
Their goal is not make a profit for investors or shareholders. That's a big difference.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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As time goes on I realize that the economic landscape of America is changing. Slowly, but surely we are seeing a greater and greater divide between the educated and un-educated. This will eventually transform into a nation of "haves" and "have-nots." Like it or not, the middle class is loosing power and size. I want to go back to school and get my degree. The past few years I've become intrigued by how people think and interact so physchology interests me. Here are my dilemmas; I've never been much of a classroom leaner, I've always learned by actually doing not by listening to a teacher or reading out of a book, I work long hours, 10-12 hours a day,(often 5-6 hours on saturday), so time is really against me, and last my math skills are horrific, I'm lost without a calculator. I do not want to be a "have-not." I want to better myself, but I'm feeling like I won't be able to. I would really appreciate advice from a professional or someone involved with higher education. Thanks.
Back on topic please. The OP has said nothing about an interest in a for-profit college.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:44 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Have you already done your general ed? If so you can skip this paragraph. If not, then , you have to go through general ed - at a community college - if you want to get a Bachelors. I know you said you do not want to go through math, but having math up to at least pre cal/statisitcs is unavoidable. After you do that you apply to a 4 year school and declare psychology. Chances are you will have one more statisitcs class, but the curriculum may vary for each school.

With that said, I STRONGLY advise AGAINST majoring in psychology or any humanities major. You say you want to get to know how people think or why they do things, but these skills are not definitely not taught at a BA level. Most classes you will take will only give you a general sense on the different fields in psychology. For example, you might take a class on the Psychology of Personality thinking you will learn about human personalities, but chances are you will only learn about personality theories and the history of personality psychology. In other words, if you expect to get a job as a therapist or being able to read people like on tv, you might want to reanalyze your choices. Generally these people have many years of school and training.

Is there anything else that interests you?
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